Query about Shogun bikes
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Query about Shogun bikes
Postby nickj_d » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:48 am
My question is are they a reputable brand? Do they still exist? Would I have any warranty problems if anything goes wrong? I am a little scared off by the lack of info I can find on the brand.
My other option is the Giant CRX2 for $1000. Both bikes seem very similar in specs, but the the Shogun felt so good.
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Postby stryker84 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:16 am
Shogun are okay, but aren't anything special. Now, an older Shogun, they were decent bikes, but these days they're just about average. Not bad, mind you, but not good either. Warranty wise? I don't know if you had to send it back, but if you get it from a decent LBS they should be able to deal with it, or at least advise you on what the warranty deal is. Nothing should be mechanically wrong with the bike, perhaps a little rougher finish, slightly heavier, etc, maybe
NB: All that just based on memories of my first Shogun hybrid, which lasted a month before it got stolen. Which was probably the best thing about it, since it was still covered on credit card insurance, got the money back and got myself my current ziparound Avanti.
Postby MountGower » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:59 am
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Postby familyguy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:19 am
Ride it. Compare it to others. You like one more? Buy it.
I would trade my $2000 Giant for a $3000 Trek cause it can do exactly the same thing.
Shogun used to be a big name, and had some quality gear. No reason why they shouldnt still be making quality bikes.
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Postby Mikka » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:35 am
I expect they'll be made in the same factory as lots of other brands .. out of the similar materials to bikes in their price range .. And that the "Shogun" Brand Name was bought by investors or another large umbrella bike company. How do the components compare?familyguy wrote:Shogun used to be a big name, and had some quality gear. No reason why they shouldnt still be making quality bikes.
Mmh .. might be telling you something ...nickj_d wrote: ... but the the Shogun felt so good.
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Postby peter » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:59 am
It's distributed by BikeCorp now, who also distributes bike accessories. BC is not a name brand but LBS love it due to low cost so there's room for huge markup.Mikka wrote:And that the "Shogun" Brand Name was bought by investors or another large umbrella bike company.
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Postby peter » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:12 am
2008 Giant CRX 2
2009 Giant CRX 2
The Mach 2 is better spec'd with mostly Tiagra components. If you are going with 08 CRX 2 then you also miss out on the carbon fork.
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Postby nickj_d » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:48 pm
I have made a few phone calls today and the consensus seems to be that they are (or were) a good brand but just not that common anymore and appear to have limited stock.
My dilemna is the mach 2 I have seen at LBS for $850 is a 2006 model. Have spoken to distributers and they are all out of 2008 stock, and 2009 don't come until september. 2009 model will be $1050 and only major difference is carbon forks. Would carbon forks be worth the extra money? What difference would it make to the bike (other than weight)?
The 2009 Giant CRX2 $995 is almost identical spec (though unlike the Shogun not all components are Shimano Tiagra).
Have ridden both but wasn't impressed the smoothness of the gear changes on the Giant. How much is this dependant on how the bike was setup? Is it just a case of fine tuning the gear cabling to change more smoothly? (the shogun was a dream using almost the same components).
If anyone knows where i can get a 2008 shogun mach 2 now i would jump at it straight away.
Postby MountGower » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:06 pm
Taking time to consider all the options is the best thing, but you need to keep abreast of what your learning as you go.
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Postby stryker84 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:37 pm
Like I said, nothing wrong with the brand, I just don't think they're quite up to the old Shogun name, and I won't be getting one for myself, they just didn't feel right for me. It might've been different at a different shop, we'll never know. So if you find it works for you, then it's the bike for you!
Postby MountGower » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:16 pm
Sorry about that. I should have done better to realise that you had owned one. That'll teach me for surfing at work. I agree that tigged alluminium looks average. A rough tig is hideous and should be considered for sure.
Nick, add rough tigs to the list.
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Postby Mikka » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:34 pm
(This page was last modified 6th June 2008).Wikepedia wrote:Falcon Cycles is a British bicycle manufacturer based in Brigg, North Lincolnshire. In addition to producing bikes under its own name, Falcon produces bicycles under several brand names including Falcon, British Eagle, Coventry Eagle, Townsend, Optima, Boss, Shogun, CBR and the flagship brand, Claud Butler.
Falcon Cycles .. Home
Shogun wasn't in that list ... but it's range is now on the website ..The NEW Shogun Range at FalconFalcon Corporate History wrote:Following acquisition by Tandem Group plc in November 1995, the company has gone from strength to strength, with current annual sales in excess of 300,000 bicycles.
The company owns and uses a number of different brands including Falcon, British Eagle, Coventry Eagle, Townsend, Optima, Boss, Scorpion, CBR and the flagship brand Claud Butler.
300 000 cycles .. let's pretend they average $150 turnover per unit ...
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Postby peter » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:49 am
Potentially the 2006 Mach 2 can be 3 years old, and it says a lot about a bike if they can't sell it in 3 years. During this 3 years, heaps of people could have test rode it, so it can almost be considered as a 2nd hand bike. It's quite a rip off if they still trying to sell it for $850.nickj_d wrote:My dilemna is the mach 2 I have seen at LBS for $850 is a 2006 model. Have spoken to distributers and they are all out of 2008 stock, and 2009 don't come until september. 2009 model will be $1050 and only major difference is carbon forks. Would carbon forks be worth the extra money? What difference would it make to the bike (other than weight)?
Carbon fork is there for comfort more than weight advantage.
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Postby Kalgrm » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:35 pm
Got one in the shed out the back - a small steel touring frame with half-step Biopace chainrings. Lovely old thing - pity my wife won't ride it any longer.kukamunga wrote:Nothin' like a good ol' late 80's Shogun, I reckon (or a Malvern Star)!
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Postby martinjs » Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:08 pm
Every one wants the latest and greatest, as long as you can get a good price! Don't pay sticker price ask for a discount.
I recently got a older model because they knocked $200 off and gave me a few other sweeteners as well. So far with a 1000k's under the belt it's been a good bike.
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Re: Query about Shogun bikes
Postby ldrcycles » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:18 pm
New ones are still around, so where are they coming from and who is bringing them in?
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Re: Query about Shogun bikes
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