11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

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11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby harmonix1234 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:56 am

Google says yes, because the inside diameter of the chain is the same, but it doesn't sit right with the German in me.
Only reason I ask is I picked up a brand new Dura Ace chain cheap, then realised it was 11sp, and I run 10sp on the bike.
Just don't want to damage my cogs or sprockets.
Should be ok though, right,
Lots of info on web says its fine... But if its fine, why do shimano not recommend it?

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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby Pottsy » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:11 am

harmonix1234 wrote:why do shimano not recommend it?
because it wasnt designed for use on a 10spd system.
just put a 10spd chain on there & sleep easy

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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby Ken Ho » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:25 pm

And stop calling fishing gear a "grouppo". It's a group-San. No such thing as a grouppo. Campagnolo stuff may be referred to as a gruppo.
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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby rodneycc » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:59 pm

He may be Italian so in that case he can call it whatever he god damn likes..;-)
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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby Duck! » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:12 pm

Ken Ho wrote:And stop calling fishing gear a "grouppo". It's a group-San. No such thing as a grouppo. Campagnolo stuff may be referred to as a gruppo.
Didja know....

Shimano started off making bike gear more than 10 years before Campagnolo. The expansion into fishing gear didn't come for another 40-odd years.

But "grouppo" is an abomination of a word however you look at it.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby RonK » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:44 am

Duck! wrote:
Ken Ho wrote:And stop calling fishing gear a "grouppo". It's a group-San. No such thing as a grouppo. Campagnolo stuff may be referred to as a gruppo.
Didja know....

Shimano started off making bike gear more than 10 years before Campagnolo. The expansion into fishing gear didn't come for another 40-odd years.

But "grouppo" is an abomination of a word however you look at it.
Then Campagnolo came along and invented the derailleur, and Shimano copied it.
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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby warthog1 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:04 pm

RonK wrote:
Duck! wrote:
Ken Ho wrote:And stop calling fishing gear a "grouppo". It's a group-San. No such thing as a grouppo. Campagnolo stuff may be referred to as a gruppo.
Didja know....

Shimano started off making bike gear more than 10 years before Campagnolo. The expansion into fishing gear didn't come for another 40-odd years.

But "grouppo" is an abomination of a word however you look at it.
Then Campagnolo came along and invented the derailleur, and Shimano copied it.
Then Shimano came along and invented indexed shifting and Campagnolo copied it.

Campag snobbery has always annoyed me, I've always seen it as coming from a fairly bigoted mind set and have probably refused to use it for that reason as much as the increased cost. In any case Shimano has always worked flawlessly for me.
I did just read this however; http://www.bicycling.com/news/featured- ... talian-job
If its accurate I like their business ethics and maintaining a fairly paid and skilled workforce. That would go some way to counteracting my aversion to Campag snobbery and I might even consider using the second rate stuff. :mrgreen:
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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby Jesmol » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:07 pm

Pottsy wrote:
harmonix1234 wrote:why do shimano not recommend it?
because it wasnt designed for use on a 10spd system.
just put a 10spd chain on there & sleep easy
It will work, it's ever so slightly slower on upshifts do to the extra clearance on the outside plates, other than that its fine.

I was using one on my shimergo setup.

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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby RonK » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:14 pm

warthog1 wrote:If its accurate I like their business ethics and maintaining a fairly paid and skilled workforce. That would go some way to counteracting my aversion to Campag snobbery and I might even consider using the second rate stuff. :mrgreen:
Don't bother. Nobody actually cares whether you use it or not. Go bury your head in the sand again. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 11sp chain on 10sp grouppo

Postby warthog1 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:26 pm

RonK wrote: Don't bother. Nobody actually cares whether you use it or not. Go bury your head in the sand again. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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