Giant defy advanced pro 0 alternatives???

[Duck!]

With the synapse ultegra di2 can you easily change the quick release to through axles or do you need a new wheel set completely. ?

Doesn't appear that the frame & fork are through-axle compatible, so you can't do it.

Thanks. I guess the same thing would be for the defy

Correct.

[Le Mong]

It's a shame that you need to replace the rear dérailleur to get a 32 on the back. Was hoping to convince the missus that I needed one of these for the PCGC. A mate of mine has just bought a Roubaix that comes already touting the 11-32 (but not in Di2) For some reason they want nearly $3000 for the Di2 model.

Hi the store up to put a mid cage on it, in saying that I have run a 32 on a DA9000 rearmech with no issues. The reason I gave up on it was that 34-32 was just too low to be practical.

[rusty842]

I have just seen a little custom build which could be perfect. Trek domane 4.5 disc with the upgrade to di2. It has through axles.

Question is are the lining up benefit of through axles better than the defy considering the domane would be 2k extra I assume.

[rusty842]

Here's the pic with what they changed. .

[jasonc]

that's UK though... that would be well over $5k here

[rusty842]

that's UK though... that would be well over $5k here

I did notice that. The actual exchange rate puts it at about 6k. Similar price to the synapse. If it doable for for 5.5k then is it worth 1000-1500 more than the giant. That's the question.

Still some 3k+ cheaper than the domane 6.9 though.

[IncognitoMosquito]

Don't forget that the UK price will probably include VAT at 17%. No duty on the bike if imported as a complete bike here if I recall correctly so not that much over $5k really.

[biker jk]

Don't forget that the UK price will probably include VAT at 17%. No duty on the bike if imported as a complete bike here if I recall correctly so not that much over $5k really.

UK VAT is 20% but you will have to add Australian GST at 10%.

[biker jk]

Lapierre Sensium 500 $3750.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/road-b ... /102664923

It is hard to nail down the weight of these disc brake road bikes. It would seem the bicycle companies are a little sensitive to concerns that adding disc brakes makes the road bikes "heavy" and so are either publishing low ball weights or avoiding the subject entirely. A few brands that I've been interested had no weights published but when I found reviews they were indeed too heavy for my purpose.

[fat and old]

Don't bother looking at a Bianchi Infinito....it ticks all the boxes bar price. 8.2 kg, 8k pricetag for 785/Di2 it jut didn't do it for me. I'm either going back to the rim brake version or having a closer look at the Defys. That price is hard to ignore

[rusty842]

Don't forget that the UK price will probably include VAT at 17%. No duty on the bike if imported as a complete bike here if I recall correctly so not that much over $5k really.

This is good to know. I'll be sold on that price. Although I can get the trek domane 6.9 disc for 7k. Argh

[rusty842]

Don't forget that the UK price will probably include VAT at 17%. No duty on the bike if imported as a complete bike here if I recall correctly so not that much over $5k really.

UK VAT is 20% but you will have to add Australian GST at 10%.

Although gst is added after the 5% customs handling fee is charged. And gst is charged after just to make a little more money.

[rusty842]

Lapierre Sensium 500 $3750.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/road-b ... /102664923

It is hard to nail down the weight of these disc brake road bikes. It would seem the bicycle companies are a little sensitive to concerns that adding disc brakes makes the road bikes "heavy" and so are either publishing low ball weights or avoiding the subject entirely. A few brands that I've been interested had no weights published but when I found reviews they were indeed too heavy for my purpose.

What is your purpose if I can ask?

[biker jk]

Lapierre Sensium 500 $3750.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/road-b ... /102664923

It is hard to nail down the weight of these disc brake road bikes. It would seem the bicycle companies are a little sensitive to concerns that adding disc brakes makes the road bikes "heavy" and so are either publishing low ball weights or avoiding the subject entirely. A few brands that I've been interested had no weights published but when I found reviews they were indeed too heavy for my purpose.

What is your purpose if I can ask?

Long distance rides with a lot of climbing (2,000-4,000m). I'd prefer sub-8kg. The Defy Advanced Pro 0 and 1 are 7.9kg or thereabouts, Advanced SL1 is 7.4kg (130g is the frame, 250g the wheelset).

[rusty842]

Lapierre Sensium 500 $3750.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/road-b ... /102664923

It is hard to nail down the weight of these disc brake road bikes. It would seem the bicycle companies are a little sensitive to concerns that adding disc brakes makes the road bikes "heavy" and so are either publishing low ball weights or avoiding the subject entirely. A few brands that I've been interested had no weights published but when I found reviews they were indeed too heavy for my purpose.

What is your purpose if I can ask?

Long distance rides with a lot of climbing (2,000-4,000m). I'd prefer sub-8kg. The Defy Advanced Pro 0 and 1 are 7.9kg or thereabouts, Advanced SL1 is 7.4kg (130g is the frame, 250g the wheelset).

Thanks for this. Good to know about the defy. Only issue I have is the quick release skewers and the lining up with the disc rotor. If it had through axles I'd have already bought it.

I hate climbing and the only interest I have in it is beating my future father in laws Strava times.

[biker jk]

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Thanks for this. Good to know about the defy. Only issue I have is the quick release skewers and the lining up with the disc rotor. If it had through axles I'd have already bought it.

I hate climbing and the only interest I have in it is beating my future father in laws Strava times.

I was a little concerned about the QR versus thru-axles issue. So I asked on this forum and pretty much everyone said that QRs were fine and there was no wheel alignment issues causing brake rotor rub.

[rusty842]

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Thanks for this. Good to know about the defy. Only issue I have is the quick release skewers and the lining up with the disc rotor. If it had through axles I'd have already bought it.

I hate climbing and the only interest I have in it is beating my future father in laws Strava times.

I was a little concerned about the QR versus thru-axles issue. So I asked on this forum and pretty much everyone said that QRs were fine and there was no wheel alignment issues causing brake rotor rub.

Thanks. Did you have a link to this thread. I've since resigned today from work and spent approx 4 hours of valuable time going over this searching over Google and couldn't find some good recent reading around this.

[biker jk]

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Thanks for this. Good to know about the defy. Only issue I have is the quick release skewers and the lining up with the disc rotor. If it had through axles I'd have already bought it.

I hate climbing and the only interest I have in it is beating my future father in laws Strava times.

I was a little concerned about the QR versus thru-axles issue. So I asked on this forum and pretty much everyone said that QRs were fine and there was no wheel alignment issues causing brake rotor rub.

Thanks. Did you have a link to this thread. I've since resigned today from work and spent approx 4 hours of valuable time going over this searching over Google and couldn't find some good recent reading around this.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=81676&p=1228841&hi ... s#p1228841" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Duck!]

If you use decent internal-cam skewers such as Shimano or Campag/Fulcrum that generate good clamping force the hoo-ha around not aligning the brake rotor in the caliper properly is unwarranted. I have QR on one MTB & through-axle on the other, and no difference in ease of aligning the brake, nor is there any detectable movement.

[jsmith_71]

I was ready to by a defy Pro 0 just recently but I could not get one in QLD. I went with the Merida Ride disc 7000 and could not be happier. Although it runs ultegra it is electronic ready. Picking up for 3k (rather then the RRM of $3.8k) at 99 bikes was also a bonus. My first love is also golf but riding this bike has pushed my golfing to every alternate weekend

[rusty842]

I was ready to by a defy Pro 0 just recently but I could not get one in QLD. I went with the Merida Ride disc 7000 and could not be happier. Although it runs ultegra it is electronic ready. Picking up for 3k (rather then the RRM of $3.8k) at 99 bikes was also a bonus. My first love is also golf but riding this bike has pushed my golfing to every alternate weekend

Yeah there isn't much left. I can't wait til August for the new items to be released.

The cannondale has external battery.
Trek is dura ace only but 7k after discount
Bmc gf01 would be great but around 7k to

Kinda leaves me with no option.

I wonder how hard it would be for a 11-32 cassette to be put on.

I still play golf every Saturday. Bike is weekdays and Sunday.

[biker jk]

I was ready to by a defy Pro 0 just recently but I could not get one in QLD. I went with the Merida Ride disc 7000 and could not be happier. Although it runs ultegra it is electronic ready. Picking up for 3k (rather then the RRM of $3.8k) at 99 bikes was also a bonus. My first love is also golf but riding this bike has pushed my golfing to every alternate weekend

Do you know what the Merida Ride Disc 7000 weighs? Curious because I've read 7.6kg and 8.5kg (both can't be right). The Giant Defy Advanced Pro 1 is similar specification to the Merida, weighs 7.9kg and can be purchased for around the same money.

[jsmith_71]

The Ride Disc 7000 weighed in at 8.3kg. The weight included ultegra pedals, extra bottle cage and Sigma cadence computer.

[biker jk]

The Ride Disc 7000 weighed in at 8.3kg. The weight included ultegra pedals, extra bottle cage and Sigma cadence computer.

What size was your frame? I had a 52cm (SM/MD) weighed in a bike shop using a Park Tools scale and it weighed 9kg with steel platform pedals and single bottle cage (bell, reflectors, etc. as standard).

I'm finding that the disc brake road bikes weigh a lot more than claimed and in many cases no weight is actually published (perhaps more honest). I was looking at the Lapierre Sensium 500 disc and it weighs 8.6kg according to the web site, which is perhaps one of the more realistic figures.

[jasonc]

biker - it's rare to find a bike web site with listed weights. they want you to go into the shop to get the weight