Helmet mounted lights
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Helmet mounted lights
Postby BugsBunny » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:42 pm
Can someone recommend a few helmet mounted front lights to me?
I intend to use it to "point" to drivers at round a bouts to signal my presence.
I guess about 100+ lumens, battery operated with sufficient power for about 3 hours night ride, with some mounting system for the helmet and not too heavy would be the main criteria.
So far, I found Knog, Lezyne and Topeak have some options but I can't quiet find the perfect one for my needs so if anyone knows of other options, I would love to hear them.
Thanks
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Boognoss » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:55 am
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby BenGr » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:26 pm
I personally wouldn't recommend anything too bright for his purposes, you do want them to be able to see...Boognoss wrote:Have you looked at Ayup?
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Boognoss » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:08 pm
Yes good point, I had ease of mounting in mind and overlooked the lighthouse levels of lumens from Ayup. That said you could run them on minimum brightness and they can be angled to not shine in motorists eyes (unless you tilt your head right back for example, I do this in winter). I have previous gem Ayups so less bright than the current revision but my batteries are only on/off. I don't have the brightness settings.BenGr wrote:I personally wouldn't recommend anything too bright for his purposes, you do want them to be able to see...Boognoss wrote:Have you looked at Ayup?
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:55 pm
Same here but if you want to be sure that bloke rolling up to the give way sign really knows you're there, there's nothing better than lighting up the inside of the vehicle.Boognoss wrote:Yes good point, I had ease of mounting in mind and overlooked the lighthouse levels of lumens from Ayup. That said you could run them on minimum brightness and they can be angled to not shine in motorists eyes (unless you tilt your head right back for example, I do this in winter). I have previous gem Ayups so less bright than the current revision but my batteries are only on/off. I don't have the brightness settings.BenGr wrote:I personally wouldn't recommend anything too bright for his purposes, you do want them to be able to see...Boognoss wrote:Have you looked at Ayup?
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby find_bruce » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:28 pm
Since fitting it, I do not have people pulling out on me at night. There are particular spots on my commute where my light is set to stun in anticipation
The problem with many helmet lights is not that they are too bright, but they are not tightly focused.
Some people find the weight of any battery on their helmet can be uncomfortable, in which case go for an external battery you can slip in a jersey pocket
One downside, or so I am told, is that observing that a person is looking particularly chic tonight is fine, giving them the once over with a spot light is less than subtle
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby caneye » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:05 pm
i was using the below. best light i have (or had).
http://www.lightandmotion.com/vis-360-plus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pros
- light, you hardly notice it's there
- red LED light on the rear of the helmet integrated with battery
- it is bright enough to use as my primary light
- battery easiliy lasts 4 hrs or more
- can be charged from PC
Cons
- found the USB tab fiddly to use because it is covered by a tight waterproof seal (eventually i broke the USB charging tab)
- expensive
then i swopped to a Fyxo light lying around unused and mounted it on my helmet
Pros
- bright, too bright (?) so i used the Low settings all the time
Cons
- heavier and bulkier. the battery is kept in my backpack with an extended cable linking the 2
- only front-facing, no rear LED light
- protrude quite high above your helmet
- lipo batt needs to be charged from AC socket
once you get used to a helmet-mounted light, you'll never go back.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Top_Bhoy » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:16 pm
Why? I've got a bright handlebar mounted light which is bright, lights up the areas that are suitable for my needs, uses rechargeable batteries and doesn't encumber me with additional head weight. I'm curious now as to what could the helmet mounted light offer me which my existing one doesn't.caneye wrote:once you get used to a helmet-mounted light, you'll never go back.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:58 pm
Top_Bhoy wrote:Why? I've got a bright handlebar mounted light which is bright, lights up the areas that are suitable for my needs, uses rechargeable batteries and doesn't encumber me with additional head weight. I'm curious now as to what could the helmet mounted light offer me which my existing one doesn't.caneye wrote:once you get used to a helmet-mounted light, you'll never go back.
BugsBunny wrote:Hi guys
I intend to use it to "point" to drivers at round a bouts to signal my presence.
Thanks
Bugs
Mulger bill wrote:...if you want to be sure that bloke rolling up to the give way sign really knows you're there, there's nothing better than lighting up the inside of the vehicle.
That should cover it.find_bruce wrote:I am a big fan of helmet lights - mine has a button for normal & stun. IMO you want a narrow spot so it only lights up where you point it. Anyone oncoming, be it car, bike or pedestrian, point it away from them. Where it is invaluable is for cars entering from side streets - a flick of my head & anyone with half a brain sees you. For the remaining few, a quick push of a button & the entire inside of their car is lit up.
Since fitting it, I do not have people pulling out on me at night.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Top_Bhoy » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:31 pm
If the aim is to blind the driver by directly pointing it in their eyes, then I can see why that could be briefly advantageous but ultimately not good practice.
My handlebar mounted light does everything I need from it therefore a more appropriate answer should have been, 'you'll never go back as long as your situation and riding conditions demand it'
I'd also dispute that any light stops a driver pulling out in front of them. Driver inattention will occur regardless of conditions and a helmet mounted light doesn't give greater assurance over a handlebar mounted light, that the driver won't pull out.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:56 pm
This...Drizt wrote:Try a helmet light.... Those that use them know the answer
https://goo.gl/maps/o4oHz
Within the first 10 minutes of my commute. I'm a shiftworker and regularly riding this at 2100.
Pullouts were once common, only one since a narrow AyUp graced my scone many years ago.
Use in other areas is dependent on prevailing circumstances but they are always ready.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby Top_Bhoy » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:10 pm
I think they're great for fishing.Mulger bill wrote:This...Drizt wrote:Try a helmet light.... Those that use them know the answer
https://goo.gl/maps/o4oHz
Within the first 10 minutes of my commute. I'm a shiftworker and regularly riding this at 2100.
Pullouts were once common, only one since a narrow AyUp graced my scone many years ago.
Use in other areas is dependent on prevailing circumstances but they are always ready.
However, on a sample survey of one or two; I remain unconvinced and reserve judgement as to their benefits in preventing driver pullouts when cycling
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby il padrone » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:03 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby caneye » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:23 pm
also , went coming up behind pedestrians on foot path in the dark, a quick shake of the helmet light will easily get their attention without startling them with a bell.
and IF you ever need to change a puncture at night ...
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby BugsBunny » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:22 pm
I also ride down unlit hills at speed and helmet lights help you see around the corner.
Just my two cents worth.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby softy » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:26 pm
My belief has now changed.
Having a helmeted light is not so bad if it is small and not so bright, but if big and bright no, why;
It is very annoying on cycleways as the light flashes bright as you look at the cyclist coming towards you. You normal look at the cyclist just out of target fixation, blinding him.
Handlebar light can be really bright and pointed down to light the road in front, but don't blind the oncoming cyclists.
A helmet light (bright) is like a flashing light at night, dam annoying, as the intensity at one point is always changing and the other cyclist eyes can't adapt so quickly.
I also believe bigger lights would affect the helmets ability to work effectively in an accident, and these lights add more weight to your head.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby trailgumby » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:04 pm
I had a near miss with idjits almost every night ride and they stopped completely once I bought the Ayups. Some of those had included unlit cyclists on bike paths - saved me from a few nasty head-ons, and o one occasion a very suspect-looking character who when I rounded the corner under the bridge at Concord planted himself centre of the path as though to hold me up. Blinding the dude allowed me to escape.
The small hotspot while annoying in the bush is good for commuting as you can point it away from other cyclists to avoid blinding them, or at them (sometimes) if a lesson needs to be taught about trying to imitate a ninja.
They are also much safer in wet conditions, where normal "see me" lights are simply lost in all the wet surface reflections.
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby gorilla monsoon » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:24 pm
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Re: Helmet mounted lights
Postby carcharias » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:43 pm
+1 Cateye Volt 300 maybe also...
Serfas/Moon option- although TSL/X-power 500's maximum lumen/run-time may be less than you need. Spot beam pattern.125 grams (just the light).I don't know the weight of the helmet mount, but they are available.4 hours on 200 lumen setting.
Anyway, may help...or not
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