Should I buy new or second hand?
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Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:38 am
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby battler2 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:20 pm
benefits of new:
+warranty
+frame structural integrity
+no scratches or nicks (no 2nd hand bike is perfect)
+new, unworn parts for max life of each component
+assembled properly, gears tuned etc.
+freedom of choice, not just what is available
benefits of 2nd hand:
+possible bargain
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby mikaelkn » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:14 pm
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:21 pm
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby Bunged Knee » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:36 pm
http://www.bikeradar.com/au/gear/articl ... ium-35183/alexhunter123711 wrote: And what bikes are titanium?
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby softy » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:51 pm
Bikes devalue so fast, much quicker than cars, many people buy bikes and have good intentions then loose interest. Just need to look with a keen eye, you can pick up real bargains, especially in the upper priced market, bikes can be literally thousands cheaper and have been hardly ridden.
Of course you don't get the latest and greatest, but is that an issue?
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby battler2 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:05 pm
he posted another thread talking about warranty and replacement, but doesn't state the name of the brand, or how it failed.
he might he a very heavy rider, in which case superlight carbon isn't really suitable. titanium could be, but steel would do just as well and be much cheaper. best he goes into a reputable LBS and gets help to find a bike that he would be happy with and not break on him, and has decent warranty if it does.
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby AUbicycles » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:29 pm
The decision to buy second hand or new would be dictated by your confidence in know exactly what you are getting. This can come from your experience with bikes and also whether you are buying from a friend or a complete stranger. As Battler2 lists, you can get a good deal on a second hand, but with a new bike there is also plenty of security.
You also don't necessarily to buy the latest / newest model unless you are going for an olympic record or other competitive accomplishment. so worth keeping in mind bike with good deals or even 'floor stock' (though generally in a bike shop, bikes are floor stock).
Returning to your last bike, if it failed and was used correctly and was a manufacture / assembly issue, then you can exercise a warranty claim.
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:55 pm
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby softy » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:53 pm
As for LBS I don't know if I would put my adsolute faith in them, I have had so much shoddy work I had to do my own work out of necessity. I am still looking for a good one.
There is so many options in bikes, so many bike shops, brands and models, if you really want new, I would go to heaps of shops and look for ones that are old models that have been sitting on there floor. Don't be so brand specific as they are all built to a price point. Old models they really want to move them and you can get big discounts. Even interstate shops, look on bike xchange. I have seen top end bikes with durace and upper end ally wheels for 3 to 4k. That is cheap new, only last years models or the year before. So look with a keen eye.
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:01 am
If you can match that deal I think the answer is obvious.
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby Metrogizual » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:35 am
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby softy » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:37 pm
Very good advice, get a professional opinion.rodneycc wrote:I've bought most of my bikes secondhand and I'm no expert. I usually take a good look at the frame and then take the bike to my LBS for a $50 checkover for piece of mind (also the odd adjustment). Got a few bargains I reckon over the last few years.
Secondhand can really save you, or get you into a significant better bike.
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby ironhanglider » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:17 pm
You get more favourable odds with secondhand, but you also have a higher chance of getting burned. You can minimise this by being knowledgeable, or by obtaining the opinion of someone who is (even if it means paying them to do so).
If you don't have the expertise, (or the chance to exercise it, such as with an internet transaction) then it really is a case of rolling the dice.
Sometimes your luck pays off, sometimes it doesn't.
Certainly knowing your stuff is important. If you can do some basic research and discover that a 2 year old bike is being sold for 1/3 of the new price then it sounds good, but I'd still be checking to see that the wheels are straight, and that the frame hasn't been bent before handing over any money.
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Cameron
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:10 pm
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:37 pm
Here's the ad
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby Thoglette » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:14 pm
Barely worn in!alexhunter123711 wrote:I have come across a second hand 2012 Trek DS 8.4 bike that has done 13,500 'commuting and touring' Is this too many k's to consider buying it? Or will it not matter that much as long as its in good condition?
Don't know about forks but the chain, cassette and front sprockets are likely to need replacing (ask if/when they were done last) It looks like the vendor has a new cassette to throw in - which is the expensive bit.
On forks, look for leaks and damage to the seals & shiny bits they slide on
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby AUbicycles » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:28 pm
On the bike style, the Trek in the gumtree add is something I would call a hybrid, a versatile bike which can suit prepared trails and cruising about. You could commute but it may not be the first choice. If you were planning on frequently riding longer distances - i.e. 10km + and knew you were just on seal paths and roads then I would go for a 'commuting' bike. It is about your seated position and comfort.
Disc brakes are not vital, but it has flat handlebars (so is not a road bike) and a horizontal top tube - plus built on (or possible to build on) accessories such as a rack at the back.
The first image is the Cannondale Adventurer which you referenced.
This grey trek is what I would call a commuter / city bike. In Europe this could be a Touring bike, in Australia however a touring bike is closer to a road bike (i.e. drop bars).
And just to show some differences, this is a slower bike. Less gears and sweeping handlebars. Shorter cruisey urban cycling.
And this is a Hybrid (though put some knobbly tyres on it and it is a Hardtail MTB)
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby alexhunter123711 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:53 pm
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
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Re: Should I buy new or second hand?
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:29 pm
For the rest of the gear, it depends upon the level of equipment. If you started dirt cheap with second hand, it would be possible to keep it under $500 for the gear and labor however for new I would be calculating $1000. Once again, depends on the level / price of each of the parts - wheels, groupset, bits and pieces.
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