Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
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Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby jpgibson » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:42 pm
One week in, hit a small concrete paver(2 cm step) at no more than 20 kph- flat spotted rim. Advice I was given from a wheel builder , mavic alloy is soft and sapim spokes are rubbish. That leaves me the hubs....
It's not economically viable to rebuild both wheels , so I've ordered some Prolite Bracianno (?sp) HD.
I am not happy but it's just the way the cookie ( or rim) crumbled.
Rant over, that combo NOT recommended if you're heavy and a commuter.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby queequeg » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:59 pm
Most rims don't take too kindly to big jolts, but 2cm is nothing. Most lips on gutters are about that and I have never had an issue.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Duck! » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:04 pm
I would say the build wasn't up to scratch moreso than the components, even accounting for the spokes.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby jpgibson » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:14 am
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby ft_critical » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:44 am
When I finally took it to my trustworthy repairer the workshop Manager mentioned that all the spokes had been poorly tensioned.
So poor build not component quality.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby find_bruce » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:35 am
The reason I ask is that poor build quality will show up in broken spokes & rims going out of true. I do not expect however that will cause a flat spot on the rim. Instead that requires the rim itself hitting something hard which suggests an issue with tyre or pressure.
What are you doing with the old wheel ? At the very least it is an opportunity to learn and practice building your own wheels.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby RonK » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:12 pm
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby dalai47 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:18 pm
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Duck! » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:44 pm
Low tension can contribute to flat spots. As the wheel is subject to compression on a bump, if the spoke tension is too low the wheel will tend to bulge, generally at points at right angles to the compression. If the force of the compression is sufficient to exceed the rim's elasticity, a permanent flat spot will result.find_bruce wrote:What tyre size and pressure are you running ?
The reason I ask is that poor build quality will show up in broken spokes & rims going out of true. I do not expect however that will cause a flat spot on the rim. Instead that requires the rim itself hitting something hard which suggests an issue with tyre or pressure.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby jpgibson » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:02 pm
bought prolite bracciano HD's.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby lock_ » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:14 pm
I'm a bit love/hate with these wheels. They ride really well, just feel like boat anchors compared to a nice set of low spoke/carbon wheels.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby ValleyForge » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:35 pm
I easily got 18K out of my DT Swiss Tricons before I retired them. And they've still got plenty of braking surface, never needed to be trued and still have some of the decals.... I reckon there pretty durable.lock_ wrote:I picked up a H Plus Son / 28 3x/ Dura Ace wheelset from Wiggle last year, has held up well to my 70kg. Opted for these for pretty much the same reasons as you mentioned... Shimano rims only last me 10months or so, mind you Mavic only faired slightly better.
I'm a bit love/hate with these wheels. They ride really well, just feel like boat anchors compared to a nice set of low spoke/carbon wheels.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Bentnose » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:02 pm
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby fingy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:13 pm
covered 60,960km I expect another 10,000km before they are retired.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby softy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:39 pm
Go troll! Loving it!RonK wrote:I reckon it would be a fair bet that any new $370 wheel set is a waste of money.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby RonK » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:15 pm
hehe, well I share your experience with Campagnolo wheels - Zondas, Eurus and Shamals. But I didn't realise the Sciroccos could be had that cheaply now.dalai47 wrote:Disagree RonK. Still training on a set of old Campagnolo Scirocco wheels. Weigh a ton but bombproof! Including the time a while back when my derailleur snapped and derailleur went into the wheel. Replaced the one broken spoke and wheel is still going strong!
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby MattyK » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:41 pm
Probably because they are being phased out for the new wider version (at least in Fulcrum Quattro (LG) drag, but I expect a Campy version will follow)RonK wrote:But I didn't realise the Sciroccos could be had that cheaply now.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Storm Boy » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:10 pm
The Scirocco 35s? I've had a set for about a year, they are good wheels at a decent price.MattyK wrote:Probably because they are being phased out for the new wider version (at least in Fulcrum Quattro (LG) drag, but I expect a Campy version will follow)RonK wrote:But I didn't realise the Sciroccos could be had that cheaply now.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby foo on patrol » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:06 pm
I guess my $125 501 Shimano wheels with close to 9000klms is luck. [emoji39]RonK wrote:I reckon it would be a fair bet that any new $370 wheel set is a waste of money.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby jacks1071 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:01 pm
Did the Bracciano A27HD's arrive?jpgibson wrote:Having commuted 170km/ wk for a few years, I seem to wear out rims pretty quickly - typically less than 10,000 km. have used Ultegra and RS80 with little trouble. I'm 90 kg, so thought I'd try a higher spoke count wheelset. Wiggle had the above, delivered in a few days. Wheels rolled well, I thought the spoke tension was bit low, but anyhoo.....
One week in, hit a small concrete paver(2 cm step) at no more than 20 kph- flat spotted rim. Advice I was given from a wheel builder , mavic alloy is soft and sapim spokes are rubbish. That leaves me the hubs....
It's not economically viable to rebuild both wheels , so I've ordered some Prolite Bracianno (?sp) HD.
I am not happy but it's just the way the cookie ( or rim) crumbled.
Rant over, that combo NOT recommended if you're heavy and a commuter.
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby eljimberino » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:40 pm
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Duck! » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:40 pm
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Re: Just wasted $370 (OpenPro 105 wheelset)
Postby Paul B » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:30 pm
Doesn't say much for the standard wheels that are supplied with many bikes. Mavic Aksiums for example.RonK wrote:I reckon it would be a fair bet that any new $370 wheel set is a waste of money.
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