Stainless Steel road bike frames
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby find_bruce » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:48 pm
I am still drooling over the Tommasini Tecno.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:51 pm
it looks like quite a rugged bike.
what do you like about the SS over carbon?
have you ridden or compared to a standard steel frame?
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby marinmomma » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:56 pm
I rode a good carbon frame prior but the SS is so much more responsive, and flies downhill, plus it's a classic look that won't date, unlike most carbon frames!
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Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby RonK » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:04 pm
The thing with the Techno is that mere mortals can afford one.find_bruce wrote:Careful Ronk, if you keep linking to such gorgeous bikes, I might find myself agreeing with you far too much.
I am still drooling over the Tommasini Tecno.
And the fork is offered with either a threaded or threadless steerer, so it can be built with a quill stem for classic looks, or with a modern headset.
Take another look at those lugs.
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Stainless Steel road bike frames
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby cyclotaur » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:34 pm
There are plenty of good looking frames that can suit your ride requirements, and in a variety if materials. As long as you get the ride right, the material and aesthetics are up to you.
And marinmomma, most people think my brushed aluminium frame is Ti - wish it was !!
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:07 am
RonK wrote: The thing with the Techno is that mere mortals can afford one.
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Take another look at those lugs.
that made me laugh...
Wingnut wrote:This is mine...I'm a bit biased...
unfortunately, this brand (sentisi) is dead.
marinmomma wrote:...
I really like the look of the bare metal...most people think that it's a Ti frame...
I rode a good carbon frame prior but the SS is so much more responsive, and flies downhill, plus it's a classic look that won't date, unlike most carbon frames!
bare metal is definitely nice...less bling...
I like to get these comparisons, i.e. responsiveness of different frames, etc.
and they are called "classics" for a reason.
thanks, cyclotaur.cyclotaur wrote:I think a lot of opinion on frame materials simply reflect the choices people have already made, and they are made for many reasons. Once people have a bike they like it is hard to shift their preferences elsewhere, and objective assessments are rare.
There are plenty of good looking frames that can suit your ride requirements, and in a variety if materials. As long as you get the ride right, the material and aesthetics are up to you.
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I think you are correct in that it is easy to justify your decisions after you have spent some money on something.
as for getting the ride right and accessibility of different materials- the problem is that I have found it hard to find anything other than carbon or aluminium to try out. or perhaps that is just me...
thanks, everyone, for your helpful comments, suggestions and photos.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby Wingnut » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:35 am
It's a Tommasini Sintesi which is the model...and they still make them today... [emoji6]rockpaper wrote:RonK wrote: The thing with the Techno is that mere mortals can afford one.
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Take another look at those lugs.
that made me laugh...
Wingnut wrote:This is mine...I'm a bit biased...
unfortunately, this brand (sentisi) is dead.
marinmomma wrote:...
I really like the look of the bare metal...most people think that it's a Ti frame...
I rode a good carbon frame prior but the SS is so much more responsive, and flies downhill, plus it's a classic look that won't date, unlike most carbon frames!
bare metal is definitely nice...less bling...
I like to get these comparisons, i.e. responsiveness of different frames, etc.
and they are called "classics" for a reason.
thanks, cyclotaur.cyclotaur wrote:I think a lot of opinion on frame materials simply reflect the choices people have already made, and they are made for many reasons. Once people have a bike they like it is hard to shift their preferences elsewhere, and objective assessments are rare.
There are plenty of good looking frames that can suit your ride requirements, and in a variety if materials. As long as you get the ride right, the material and aesthetics are up to you.
)
I think you are correct in that it is easy to justify your decisions after you have spent some money on something.
as for getting the ride right and accessibility of different materials- the problem is that I have found it hard to find anything other than carbon or aluminium to try out. or perhaps that is just me...
thanks, everyone, for your helpful comments, suggestions and photos.
cheers,
rockpaper
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:46 pm
Wingnut wrote:
It's a Tommasini Sintesi which is the model...and they still make them today... [emoji6]
right. that was a bit confusing.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby marinmomma » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:18 pm
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby Wingnut » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:38 pm
Thank you!marinmomma wrote:Wingnut, that bike is a beauty!
I've recently discovered that I have a heart condition and I've rarely ridden the bike so I'm now going to start enjoying the bloody thing and use it as my daily ride! I just need to re-glue the tyres and throw some pedals on it
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby koshari » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:41 pm
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:09 pm
I had not considered SS to be brittle but my experience with it is limited.
yet another consideration and probably pointing me more toward normal steel, as well.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby mmc22 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:06 am
You'll be sure to find something very nice.
http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f15/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:15 pm
there are some nice looking frames and paint jobs on that site, e.g. the Craddock bikesmmc22 wrote: http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f15/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
but must have Italian...
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby koshari » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:27 pm
my experiences are from working in maintenance in heavy industry. I find stainless terrible to machine or work, it also is prone to cracking after its been welded, however saying that i would imagine that modern stainless frames would cop a heap of heat treatment to bring them to the required malleability a bicycle frame would require.rockpaper wrote:thanks, koshari.
I had not considered SS to be brittle but my experience with it is limited.
yet another consideration and probably pointing me more toward normal steel, as well.
the ones posted in this thread sure look nice though, and the stainless finish would be from a aesthetics perspective a hell of a lot longer wearing than a chromed frame.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby rockpaper » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:07 pm
thanks for your comments.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby outnabike » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:31 pm
Hi koshari,I reckon it must be what each of us has had to make and the differing ss products.koshari wrote:my experiences are from working in maintenance in heavy industry. I find stainless terrible to machine or work, it also is prone to cracking after its been welded, however saying that i would imagine that modern stainless frames would cop a heap of heat treatment to bring them to the required malleability a bicycle frame would require.rockpaper wrote:thanks, koshari.
I had not considered SS to be brittle but my experience with it is limited.
yet another consideration and probably pointing me more toward normal steel, as well.
the ones posted in this thread sure look nice though, and the stainless finish would be from a aesthetics perspective a hell of a lot longer wearing than a chromed frame.
I find it the exact opposite and have welded ss all my working life. Most off the handy man all purpose rods sold to 4 wheel drivers for road side repairs etc have a high proportion of SS in the make up.I have welded chassis with a couple of batteries hooked-up. But only for emergency work.
I am weary of any metal on bicycles that is too thin to save weight etc, as they make the bikes to a spec that is largely unproven. I look at the recalls lists on forks etc to note where they might have gone a bit thicker in design, or the seat stems . The poor cyclist is the guinea pig and the loser when things take a bad turn.
I don't care what they do, to make a metal thin and light, it has to have a higher degree of hardness to go along with it. The brittleness is more to do with work hardening, through constant flex in a given area.
Like taking an example though extreme of a piece of soft copper and bending and then unbending a curve in it. It soon becomes unworkable and fractures quickly.
SS is not a light weight material and and it would take a good welder with tig to do a frame. My experience has been with the stuff at 2mm thk and higher. I haven't seen them tig welding a frame but to my mind most metals benefit from a pre-heating to a given temp prior to welding. I don't know if this is done with bike frames, but a strong rider of a higher weight will sort out any frames longevity.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby Uncle Just » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:42 am
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby Wingnut » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:56 am
Enough builders have been making frames from Spirit, 953 and XCR for awhile now outnabike...I would be so paranoid...outnabike wrote:Hi koshari,I reckon it must be what each of us has had to make and the differing ss products.koshari wrote:my experiences are from working in maintenance in heavy industry. I find stainless terrible to machine or work, it also is prone to cracking after its been welded, however saying that i would imagine that modern stainless frames would cop a heap of heat treatment to bring them to the required malleability a bicycle frame would require.rockpaper wrote:thanks, koshari.
I had not considered SS to be brittle but my experience with it is limited.
yet another consideration and probably pointing me more toward normal steel, as well.
the ones posted in this thread sure look nice though, and the stainless finish would be from a aesthetics perspective a hell of a lot longer wearing than a chromed frame.
I find it the exact opposite and have welded ss all my working life. Most off the handy man all purpose rods sold to 4 wheel drivers for road side repairs etc have a high proportion of SS in the make up.I have welded chassis with a couple of batteries hooked-up. But only for emergency work.
I am weary of any metal on bicycles that is too thin to save weight etc, as they make the bikes to a spec that is largely unproven. I look at the recalls lists on forks etc to note where they might have gone a bit thicker in design, or the seat stems . The poor cyclist is the guinea pig and the loser when things take a bad turn.
I don't care what they do, to make a metal thin and light, it has to have a higher degree of hardness to go along with it. The brittleness is more to do with work hardening, through constant flex in a given area.
Like taking an example though extreme of a piece of soft copper and bending and then unbending a curve in it. It soon becomes unworkable and fractures quickly.
SS is not a light weight material and and it would take a good welder with tig to do a frame. My experience has been with the stuff at 2mm thk and higher. I haven't seen them tig welding a frame but to my mind most metals benefit from a pre-heating to a given temp prior to welding. I don't know if this is done with bike frames, but a strong rider of a higher weight will sort out any frames longevity.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
Postby koshari » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:41 pm
" the raw material is notoriously difficult to work with, complicating and extending manufacturing times,"
i would believe it.
if i was to shell out that sorta cash i think i would want the native finish to show it off.
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Re: Stainless Steel road bike frames
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