Giant Liv Thrive 0 Replacing wheels

[monksley]

Hi guys,

I hope someone can help to answer my questions here as I'm a just beginning my adventure with bicycles and already had not the best experience not only with thief but with customer service at local giant. Anyway... Let's get to the point.

So both of the wheels has been stolen from my wife's bicycle and now I'm looking for replacement. I need new wheels and disc rotors. I think I can handle the rest (I mean tires, cassette and tubes).
The model is Giant Liv Thrive 0 and I will paste here specs of the bike. I can't find same parts online and at the local giant store one of seller I'm guessing was wrong because he already been trying to sell me cassette and rotors for 10-speed bike and mine is 11-speed. I believe here on this forum I can find more experienced riders then that guy. And what I will actually try to do is to match the parts I believe would match but I can be wrong so maybe someone can point me the right direction? I would really appreciate anyone's help. Thank you and sorry for my bad English. So I was thinking that maybe these parts would suit this bike?

Cassette Shimano 105, 11-28T, 11sp
Disc Rotor Shimano Deore XT Rotor SM-RT81 160mm

Wheels
Rims Giant P-R2 (before) want to replace with Shimano WH−RX010 Alloy Clincher Front Wheel

Tires Giant P-R3 AC, Flatguard Deflect 3, 700 x 28c (open for suggestions) to replace with Continental Touring Plus Tyre Wire Bead 700 x 28mm
Tubes Schwalbe SV20 700x18-25C 60mm Presta Valve Tube

Like I've mentioned before. Greatly appreciate any suggestions and help. Thank you.

Regards,


Darek

[daft1024]

Hi,

Bad luck with getting the wheels stolen...

First check the rear spacing. Most are 135mm but some are 130mm. If its 135mm you have plenty of great options.

If its 135mm I would look at the Kinesis Crosslight: http://www.this link is broken.au/kinesis-crossl ... eelset-v3/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; They are a great value wheelset. They will likely be much much better than the OEM wheels.

If the spacing is 130mm post back for some other options.

For the disc rotors pretty much any one will do. According to the specs you need a 160 front and 140 rear. The shimano ones will do fine so long as you have the right size. Wiggle sell the tektro rotors if you want to keep it in the family: http://www.this link is broken.au/disc-brake-rot ... 4294789771" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For cassette just go with the 105 11-28T. Maybe you could also consider fitting an 11-30 or 11-32 for easier climbing but this might mean you need a new chain as well.

Keep in mind with the new wheelset you might have to do a little minor tuning of the rear derailleur if the new hub spacing is different to the old spacing.

For tyres I like the Maxxis Refuse in 28mm. They are cheap from pushy's and last forever. If you want a bit of lower rolling resistance have a look at the Maxxis Relix. I have a pair in 25mm as my "fast" tyres. They were cheap and ride smoothly - they are certainly much faster than the refuse. Not sure about longevity but they are cheap enough for me not to really worry too much.

Hope this helps.

[monksley]

Hi daft1024,

I've been trying to find anything at the giant website and all over internet about rear spacing in that model. Couldn't find anything but most of similar models have 135mm so I guess that's what it is. BTW, how can I check that?
Thank you for suggestion on the wheelset but for my wife needs I think they are little bit to expensive. She's riding that bike one time per month so I reckon that something in around $200 would do the job. Rest of the money would prefer to spend on flowers
Cassette will definitely get 105 11-28T, same as it was previously and tires that you recommended looks pretty solid so I will have them on my mind.

Thank you for your help. It means a lot to me. As soon as I will find out the rear spacing I will let you know.

Best regards,

Darek

[monksley]

Hi,

Just forgot to ask about disc rotor... Is it centrelock or 6-bolts?
How do you know which one suits my bike? From the beginning I thought that I need centrelock but now I'm confused after you sent me link to 6-bolt.

[eeksll]

to measure the width, you measure the internal distance between the dropouts (the bit where the wheel attaches to the frame).

Centrelock / 6 bolt is dependent on the hub on the wheel you buy. It specifies how the brake rotor is attached to the wheel. Keeping in mind, a centerlock hub will require a center lock tool (which is the same as the cassette tool) so if your doing this yourself, you will need to buy that tool.

Also don't forget to check if the wheels you buy come with rim tape, I don't think all wheels necessarily come with rim tape.

Don't forget to check the wheel you buy is 11 speed compatible.

Also a good time to decide if you really need that 11 tooth on the cassette. Although having said that, looking on the shimano site, doesn't look like they make a a12-27 cassette.

After all that, once you have a online price, it is worth walking into giant and talking to another rep and see what they say. You never know, they may offer a better than rrp price given your situation.

[Duck!]

It's 135mm spacing, the Giant hubs are 6-bolt, and you will only find the top-spec Giant road & MTB wheels available aftermarket (and only through Giant dealers), not the entry-level wheels.

[monksley]

Thanks a lot to all of you for those details.
So what I found as a replacement I will show you here and if you could just tell me please if these parts gonna match that bike. I really don't know that much about servicing them yet that's why I'm looking for help here. Plus it's unexpected cost for me so I'm doing my best to do it good and cheap in the same time.

Wheels: http://www.cyclingexpress.com/en/produc ... kdf2OK1jRg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or
http://www.cyclingexpress.com/en/produc ... kh5MeK1jRg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and I like those one but don't know much about them... would be great if they would match. http://www.cyclingexpress.com/en/produc ... kh4teK1jRg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tyres: http://tbsm.com.au/bike-parts/wheels-ty ... -700c-2400" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or
http://www.this link is broken.au/continental-ga ... road-tyre/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubes: http://www.cyclingexpress.com/en/produc ... kh8zOK1jRg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cassette: http://www.this link is broken.au/shimano-105-5800-cassette/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Disc rotor 140mm: http://www.this link is broken.au/tektro-lyra-14 ... ake-rotor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disc rotor 160mm: http://www.this link is broken.au/tektro-lyra-16 ... ake-rotor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I guess that would be all. I'm not sure if it's ok to post links like that on forum (I've never used any kind of forums before) so I hope there's no drama. Just if any of you can take a quick look on my choice and tell me if that's correct setup.

Thanks a lot to you guys.

Regards,

Darek

[monksley]

Hi,

Bad luck with getting the wheels stolen...

First check the rear spacing. Most are 135mm but some are 130mm. If its 135mm you have plenty of great options.

If its 135mm I would look at the Kinesis Crosslight: http://www.this link is broken.au/kinesis-crossl ... eelset-v3/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; They are a great value wheelset. They will likely be much much better than the OEM wheels.

If the spacing is 130mm post back for some other options.

For the disc rotors pretty much any one will do. According to the specs you need a 160 front and 140 rear. The shimano ones will do fine so long as you have the right size. Wiggle sell the tektro rotors if you want to keep it in the family: http://www.this link is broken.au/disc-brake-rot ... 4294789771" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For cassette just go with the 105 11-28T. Maybe you could also consider fitting an 11-30 or 11-32 for easier climbing but this might mean you need a new chain as well.

Keep in mind with the new wheelset you might have to do a little minor tuning of the rear derailleur if the new hub spacing is different to the old spacing.

For tyres I like the Maxxis Refuse in 28mm. They are cheap from pushy's and last forever. If you want a bit of lower rolling resistance have a look at the Maxxis Relix. I have a pair in 25mm as my "fast" tyres. They were cheap and ride smoothly - they are certainly much faster than the refuse. Not sure about longevity but they are cheap enough for me not to really worry too much.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

Does the size of the disc rotor really matter? It's hard for me to find anything in size 140mm for rear. Can I just use 160mm for both sides? I've got some on my mind from Shimano.
Thanks,

Darek

[Bunged Knee]

Your 3 links from CyclingExpress of wheelsets are not disc compatable. You need disc compatable wheelset of 6 bolt.

Cassette link is good, tyres is your choice of choosing. Discs links is good. Tube link looks different as it`s not presta valve.

[monksley]

Your 3 links from CyclingExpress of wheelsets are not disc compatable. You need disc compatable wheelset of 6 bolt.

Cassette link is good, tyres is your choice of choosing. Discs links is good. Tube link looks different as it`s not presta valve.

Hi,

Thanks for that. Didn't even realised that is wrong wheels.
What if I will buy wheels with centerlock and same disc rotors? Is it going to match? Does it make any difference for the brakes I have already?

Darek

[Duck!]

The choice betwen 6-bolt & Cenrelock hubs & rotors doesn't affect caliper compatibility, but the design of some Shimano rotors, specifically RT86 (6-bolt), RT81 & RT99 (both Centrelock) with long centre arms can foul on some non-Shimano calipers that are not designed to pair with those rotors. If you go Centrelock ypou'd be better with RT64 or 67, which have shorter mount arms. The catch is that only RT99 is available in 140mm, so you'll need to find another 140mm rotor, or an adaptor to jack the rear caliper up to fit over a 160mm.

[daft1024]

In the ~$200 price point there is the RX31 for $200 or even cheaper the RX05 for $180.

Can't say I've actually seen a pair though. Most Shimano stuff is usually good quality but they will not be lightweight.

Both of these are centrelock and have the issues Duck has mentioned above. You can get centrelock to 6 bolt adapters though.

Maybe you could get the RX31 wheelset and put a RT64 160mm on the front and get an adaptor and any old 6 bolt 140 for the rear?

There is a 6 bolt set at cycling deal for $250 but they look to be heavy units considering they are 24 spoke.

The other option is to check the facebook cycling markets or gumtree. There are a few road disc wheelsets floating around now as people upgrade.

[Duck!]

Both of these are centrelock and have the issues Duck has mentioned above. You can get centrelock to 6 bolt adapters though.

Go back & properly read what I wrote. The issues I raised to be mindful of have nothing to do with whether the rotors are Centrelock or not (and in fact applies to certain models of rotor in both attachment forms. Shimano's RT6x & better rotors use a two-piece construction with the braking section pinned to an aluminium spider. The spiders on RT6x models have short arms, which are well away from the caliper. The RT7x, 8x & 9x spiders, regardless of mounting type, have very long arms, which can foul on brake calipers not designed for use with them. I know some Avid calipers have problems, I'm not sure about Tektro, but have my doubts about compatibility. Even some cheaper Shimano calipers may prove a problem.

[daft1024]

Go back & properly read what I wrote.

No need to go back and properly read.

I read it the first time and found out something new - as I usually do when I read this forum - you said some shimano centerlock rotors might foul some brakes.

For someone trying to get a cheap and reliable fix I thought the possibility of incompatibility in the rear with a 140mm centerlock rotor might be more hassle than its worth.

So you do think a shimano centrelock wheelset for around $200 with a RT64 160mm front rotor and out back a 6 bolt adapter with a plain old 140 mm rear rotor might be a good option for the OP?

I kinda thought that a 6 bolt adaptor might have a lower likelihood of creating other issues than trying a 160mm rear disc with an adapter on the caliper to get the right spacing. I was wondering if a 160mm caliper adapter might end up with having to change the cable.

Alternatively would the OP be better with a native 6 bolt option like the Reynolds I linked?

I have no personal experience with either, but would probably pick Shimano on name alone.

[monksley]

Hi guys,

I just came back from one of the bike shops in Melbourne and asked for replacement wheelset with rotors. Been told that I can just get wheelset like this one (been offered for $360 but I found them cheaper online):
https://www.cyclingexpress.com/en/produ ... elset.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And the guy told me that I can just put on them any centrelock rotors from shimano in size 160mm and 140mm so I've been thinking about these ones:
http://tbsm.com.au/bike-parts/brakes/br ... rt68-19913" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://tbsm.com.au/bike-parts/brakes/br ... rt81-12169" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in sieze of 140mm
And the tires:
http://tbsm.com.au/bike-parts/wheels-ty ... -700c-2400" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in size 700c x 28c
with tubes:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-PAIR-Gian ... Sw~gRV5VKi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or
http://www.this link is broken.au/schwalbe-road-inner-tube/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in size 700 x 28-32

Do you think guys that configuration would do now?

Always appreciate your feedback. Thank you.

Safe riding,

Darek

[Bunged Knee]

Yes, that wheelset link is good and if you are a newsletter subscriber of that site, you can put the code for 12% off for $233.42.

Get the tube in presta. Rotors of centerlock do fit these wheels.

[monksley]

Yes, that wheelset link is good and if you are a newsletter subscriber of that site, you can put the code for 12% off for $233.42.

Get the tube in presta. Rotors of centerlock do fit these wheels.

I found that wheelset on ebay for $276 and with a free shipping so I'm good.
So this tube will be fine?
http://www.this link is broken.au/continental-qu ... nner-tube/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Duck!]

Go back & properly read what I wrote.

No need to go back and properly read.

I read it the first time and found out something new - as I usually do when I read this forum - you said some shimano centerlock rotors might foul some brakes.

No, what I said was some Shimano rotors regardless of mount type might foul on some brakes. RT86 (and RT76 if they still exist) 6-bolt rotors are equally problematic as RT81 & RT99 Centrelock due to the long-armed spider. Shimano's 140mm offerings may prove problematic not because they're Centrelock, but because they're only available in these long-armed models.

[Bunged Knee]

Yes, that wheelset link is good and if you are a newsletter subscriber of that site, you can put the code for 12% off for $233.42.

Get the tube in presta. Rotors of centerlock do fit these wheels.

I found that wheelset on ebay for $276 and with a free shipping so I'm good.
So this tube will be fine?
http://www.this link is broken.au/continental-qu ... nner-tube/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes, and pick the size to fit your tyre size. Eg- tyre is 28mm, pick "Race 28 T" or tyre is 23 -25mm,pick "Race 28".

[monksley]

Yes, that wheelset link is good and if you are a newsletter subscriber of that site, you can put the code for 12% off for $233.42.

Get the tube in presta. Rotors of centerlock do fit these wheels.

I found that wheelset on ebay for $276 and with a free shipping so I'm good.
So this tube will be fine?
http://www.this link is broken.au/continental-qu ... nner-tube/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes, and pick the size to fit your tyre size. Eg- tyre is 28mm, pick "Race 28 T" or tyre is 23 -25mm,pick "Race 28".

Great. Thank you for that. All the best.
Oh... and what about the disc rotors I've posted before? Did you had a look at them? Are they going to match that wheels? What do you think about that? Maybe some suggestion?