What the Heck is a Grouppo (and Why Do I Care)?
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What the Heck is a Grouppo (and Why Do I Care)?
Postby mrkristof47 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:07 am
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Out of all the words that get thrown around in bike shops, grouppo (the Italian word for “group”) smacks particularly of the kind of snobbery that people associate with bike shops. It’s really just a fancy word for a single collection of components from one manufacturer, also called a group set or, even more clearly, a component package. These include the shift/brake levers, chain, cassette, crankset, bottom bracket, and brake calipers, and as mentioned before, they are often sold in bulk as a package deal to bicycle manufacturers from component manufacturers to keep costs down.
Making things a little more complicated, each of the major component manufacturers has multiple tiers of these collections that you might be offered on any given bike. There are three to five levels for each manufacturer, but the one thing that all of them have in common is that as the price increases so does the quality, while at the same time they get lighter.
It’s good to get acquainted with the styles and terms because when you start looking at bicycles, their main differences are going to be in three areas: frame materials,wheel sets,and what group set they come outfitted with.
No matter what style of riding you’ll be doing, these options will remain fairly consistent across the board on both new and used bikes.
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Re: What the Heck is a Grouppo (and Why Do I Care)?
Postby Abby » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:54 am
The Italian word for group is 'gruppo', not 'grouppo'... And since when is using Italian words snobby if they're in context?mrkristof47 wrote:What the Heck is a Grouppo (and Why Do I Care)?
Out of all the words that get thrown around in bike shops, grouppo (the Italian word for “group”)
Anyway, I always thought grouppo was just a contraction of groupset.
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Postby RonK » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:59 am
Nailed it right there.silentC wrote:Beats me how a plain Italian word could be considered fancy or snobbish. I don't consider myself a snob when I order a cappuccino!
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Postby RonK » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:05 am
Hehe. Yes, amusing isn't when somebody tries to be a smart arse and instead just displays their own ignorance.Abby wrote:The Italian word for group is 'gruppo', not 'grouppo'... And since when is using Italian words snobby if they're in context?
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Postby eeksll » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:06 am
although I did not know it was actually the Italian term, its a "group set" and it would be VERY common in in Australia to shorten that to groupo (or maybe groupy?).
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Postby RonK » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:11 am
Hmmm, come to think if it, perhaps he is right. When using "gruppo" it's assumed you're talking Campagnolo.RonK wrote:Hehe. Yes, amusing isn't when somebody tries to be a smart arse and instead just displays their own ignorance.Abby wrote:The Italian word for group is 'gruppo', not 'grouppo'... And since when is using Italian words snobby if they're in context?
Calling your Shimano or Sram groupset a "grouppo" would indeed be snobbish.
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Postby MattyK » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:17 pm
My thoughts exactly. I was going to reply earlier with "Cool story, Hansel" but it felt a bit too dickish if this was an actual person.Mububban wrote:I'd say this is a bot considering their only other post is also a new thread that sounds like a Buzzfeed list...
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Postby MichaelB » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:03 pm
Anyway, what was the overall point of this thread ....
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Postby familyguy » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:04 pm
Then again, I like saying gabel and bremsen when I talk about parts to be really confusing and Euro and snobbish.
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Postby Duck! » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:15 pm
But then a derailleur would be a dero, and that's already taken...MichaelB wrote:Proper aussie slang would be "groupo" with a single 'P', as us aussies like to end things in 'o' - servo, bottleo, etc
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Postby silentC » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:49 pm
To attract traffic to his blog I assume...MichaelB wrote: Anyway, what was the overall point of this thread ....
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Postby rodneycc » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:19 pm
I remember I got smashed on this very forum for using gruppo/grouppo a while back. I'm still bitter and twisted about it to be honest and the two individuals have gone into the little black book never to be trusted again..... (you know who you are...)
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Postby cyclotaur » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:20 pm
I thought it was, for the intended audience, quite a good explanation of a common piece of cycling jargon, however you care to spell it.
Not that sure who the biggest snobs are here.... the language/spelling pedants, the the campagnoloscenti (I made that one up myself !! ) ....or the coffee 'merchant-bankers' ?
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Postby silentC » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:44 pm
What gave it away?cyclotaur wrote:Did anyone actually notice that the OP was just re-posting a magazine article
If you have been paying attention, you'll probably draw the conclusion that the OP was just trying to draw traffic to his web site. I guess we've all clicked on the link now, so mission accomplished.
As for the article itself, I think it's possible to pass on information to beginners without the value judgements.
Not sure who you are directing your merchant banker remarks to, but right back at you mate!
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Postby cyclotaur » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:38 am
Ah, well....I'm a bit naïve I guess, but I rarely click on links due to a few unfortunate past episodes with viruses, and didn't in this case - but the mag was listed in the link anyway.silentC wrote:What gave it away?cyclotaur wrote:Did anyone actually notice that the OP was just re-posting a magazine article
If you have been paying attention, you'll probably draw the conclusion that the OP was just trying to draw traffic to his web site. I guess we've all clicked on the link now, so mission accomplished.
I assume all special interest publications are full of value judgements, not to mention irony, humour and, hopefully, occasional self-deprecation.silentC wrote:As for the article itself, I think it's possible to pass on information to beginners without the value judgements.
hehe....not sure - or absolutely sure... ?silentC wrote:Not sure who you are directing your merchant banker remarks to, but right back at you mate!
I just love a bit of confected outrage.
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