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Postby Aushiker » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:12 pm
As you can see the app has me riding on water. It appears to be assuming that the Rottnest Island ferry service provides a commuter service here; it does not.
Now when I map a similar route in Google Maps I get a more logical route. You can see the Google Maps route here.
I have raised this with Wahoo Support but curious if others have experienced anything similar or have some suggestions on how to avoid this happening.
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Postby RonK » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:33 pm
Since I have an iPhone it's using Apple Maps, which also maps ferry routes poorly. Google Maps does quite well.
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Postby Aushiker » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:46 pm
Google maps which is why I was a bit surprised. I assumed it would be the same and choose the cycling options. Doing it in Google Maps on the phone it matches the website Google Maps.RonK wrote:Interesting. I suspect it's in the map detail. So you are using Android - what mapping does the app use?
Since I have an iPhone it's using Apple Maps, which also maps ferry routes poorly. Google Maps does quite well.
I have asked in the Wahoo Elemnts Google group and pinged Wahoo Support. Maybe something that needs fixing in a future firmware update.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:43 am
Interestingly doing the same routing in say http://ridewithgps/.com using both Open Street Maps and Open Cycling Maps produces a pretty good route.I am sorry you are having this issue. The maps are pulled from OpenStreetMap and I assume they think there is a ferry there. I will pass this along to our developers.
Wahoo's "Take Me Anywhere" feature which they are promoting in emails does not. Here is another beaut example:
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Postby RonK » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:55 am
Hmmm, perhaps not - Wahoo has found a legitimate ferry service (that I didn't know existed) to a Moreton Island location. It's not the closest to my starting location but real nonetheless. The other routes including ferries work as expected.
No doubt these are valid ferry services whereas the Rotto ferry is not a valid cross river service.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:11 pm
It has been suggested elsewhere that Wahoo take the OSM mapping data and do their thing to it. Maybe they should leave it alone.
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Postby RonK » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:25 pm
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:12 pm
Hope so. I tried an inland route, home to work and that matches pretty much what Google comes up with, but interestingly RidewithGPS comes up with a longer by three kilometre route but one which is more bike friendly.RonK wrote:No doubt a fix will be forthcoming in a future Elemnt Software Update.
Wahoo needs to take on board RidewithGPS routing algorithm
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Postby Aushiker » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:35 am
2 Oct 2017
ELEMNT WF42-1705
Share Sites
ELEMNT BOLT can now share to the following sites on iOS and Android:
Komoot - https://www.komoot.com/
Cycling Analytics - https://www.cyclinganalytics.com
PowerTraxx - https://www.powertraxx.de
Additionally, Android users can now share with:
Google Fit - https://www.google.com/fit
Dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com
Other
Various bug fixes
Like the Dropbox integration. Handy for backing up each ride.
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Postby RonK » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:16 am
I sync my rides automatically to RWGPS for backup. Within a few moments of pressing the button on the Elemnt to end the ride, my phone pings and it's visible in the RWGPS app.Aushiker wrote:Like the Dropbox integration. Handy for backing up each ride.
Also the routes I create in RWGPS are automatically synced to the Wahoo app. On the Elemnt I choose the route and it is downloaded instantly. It's just so easy.
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Postby Aushiker » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 am
* Backlight off
* Cadence and speed sensors connected
* Heart Rate Monitor connected
* Following route on map
* Synced to phone
50% of battery used over 4 hours and 47 minutes which suggests ~ 9.5 hours of battery life. Well short of the claimed times
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Postby biker jk » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:36 am
I think you'll find it's not linear. I get around 12-13 hours using navigation and the same sensors you used. I only ever need a battery charger on 300km rides like the one I did on Saturday.Aushiker wrote:Had a chance on Sunday to test the battery life on the Wahoo Elemnt:
* Backlight off
* Cadence and speed sensors connected
* Heart Rate Monitor connected
* Following route on map
* Synced to phone
50% of battery used over 4 hours and 47 minutes which suggests ~ 9.5 hours of battery life. Well short of the claimed times
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Postby Newcastle Dave » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:09 pm
I have an elemnt Bolt. Did the Around the Bay 250 k ride (slowly). It still had around 25% charge after 10 1/2 - 11 hours. The only sensor I had was a cadence onebiker jk wrote: I think you'll find it's not linear. I get around 12-13 hours using navigation and the same sensors you used. I only ever need a battery charger on 300km rides like the one I did on Saturday.
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Postby Aushiker » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:23 pm
I did notice that the usage % declined did slow over the ride which makes sense given your comments. I wonder if having the phone off would make a difference as well.biker jk wrote:I think you'll find it's not linear. I get around 12-13 hours using navigation and the same sensors you used. I only ever need a battery charger on 300km rides like the one I did on Saturday.
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Postby biker jk » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:07 pm
The battery life I get is based on not having the phone paired.Aushiker wrote:I did notice that the usage % declined did slow over the ride which makes sense given your comments. I wonder if having the phone off would make a difference as well.biker jk wrote:I think you'll find it's not linear. I get around 12-13 hours using navigation and the same sensors you used. I only ever need a battery charger on 300km rides like the one I did on Saturday.
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Postby stevecassidy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:46 pm
The resulting file on Strava looks ok, perhaps because I was following a route and the Bolt filled in the gaps. But the lack of speed and climb readouts was a bit annoying on the ride.
Has anyone else seen something like this?
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Postby RonK » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:28 pm
I saw this complaint on one if my Facebook groups just yesterday. Wondering if it was caused by the last firmware update. Did you install it?stevecassidy wrote:I had some issues with my Bolt yesterday on the Bowral Classic ride. After around 100km I started getting GPS dropouts - red flashes on the LEDs with beeps, followed by a blanked out speed readout. This was just for brief periods at first but later for much longer. In some cases I was riding through trees so satellite visibility might have been reduced, but other times I was out in the open.
The resulting file on Strava looks ok, perhaps because I was following a route and the Bolt filled in the gaps. But the lack of speed and climb readouts was a bit annoying on the ride.
Has anyone else seen something like this?
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Postby stevecassidy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:11 am
I did yes, so hopefully this can be fixed again in the next update.RonK wrote: I saw this complaint on one if my Facebook groups just yesterday. Wondering if it was caused by the last firmware update. Did you install it?
Just checked the ride on Strava again and looking more closely, there are big chunks of the ride missing where the GPS dropped out. It appears to have filled in the elevation on the ride - presumably from the route - but speed, hr, power and cadence are missing. This is annoying since at least HR and Power were displaying ok, it would be good if it recorded those even if it can't get position from GPS.
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Postby RonK » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:35 am
Have you reported it to Wahoo?stevecassidy wrote:I did yes, so hopefully this can be fixed again in the next update.RonK wrote: I saw this complaint on one if my Facebook groups just yesterday. Wondering if it was caused by the last firmware update. Did you install it?
Just checked the ride on Strava again and looking more closely, there are big chunks of the ride missing where the GPS dropped out. It appears to have filled in the elevation on the ride - presumably from the route - but speed, hr, power and cadence are missing. This is annoying since at least HR and Power were displaying ok, it would be good if it recorded those even if it can't get position from GPS.
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Postby kb » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:23 pm
Likely it did and Strava cut them out. I wonder if changing the ride to stationary/trainer shows the missing bits?stevecassidy wrote: Just checked the ride on Strava again and looking more closely, there are big chunks of the ride missing where the GPS dropped out. It appears to have filled in the elevation on the ride - presumably from the route - but speed, hr, power and cadence are missing. This is annoying since at least HR and Power were displaying ok, it would be good if it recorded those even if it can't get position from GPS.
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Postby stevecassidy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:44 pm
Just did that now, we'll see if they respond.RonK wrote: Have you reported it to Wahoo?
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Postby stevecassidy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:17 am
Well, excellent response from Wahoo, I got a reply overnight and following a few emails, they have referred it to the local distributor who has just sent me a shipping note to return the Bolt for a replacement. They said that the degree of dropout in my ride was unusually high and probably indicated a faulty unit.stevecassidy wrote:Just did that now, we'll see if they respond.RonK wrote: Have you reported it to Wahoo?
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Postby stevecassidy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:52 pm
Kudos to Wahoo and FE Sports!
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