Fork Clearance
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Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:13 pm
Am I bound to 23mm tyres, or is there a bodge I can do?
If I have to get a new fork I might as well get a new bike.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:22 pm
Over the weekend, I fitted a pair of 25mm Vittoria Zaffiros to some Concept SL rims, sat at 25.37mm at 100psi. Also fitted a pair of Schwalbe One 25mm to some old school Alesa rims, which ended up reading 24.88mm at 100psi.
So you can probably avoid the bone-jarring 23mm, but not by a lot.
And just out of curiosity I measured some 28mm Vittoria Zaffiro rubber I have on my training bike which has aero rims, and these measured 28.64mm at 100psi.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby RobertL » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:04 am
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby uart » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:17 am
It depends on exactly how tight is "tight", and close to 25 is "closer to 25".Brendo09 wrote:This is a quick one... I've got an Oppy A4, and the front fork is tight with a Hutchinson Fusion5 28mm tyre (which measures closer to 25mm).
Am I bound to 23mm tyres, or is there a bodge I can do?
If I have to get a new fork I might as well get a new bike.
If I read it correctly you are currently running something larger than 25 and still have some clearance, albeit not as much as you would like. In that case it shouldn't be necessary to go all the way down to 23c, most brand's 25c should be ok.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby uart » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:22 am
In regard to this question. Is the clearance issue most critical laterally (to the fork blades) or radially (to the bottom of the brake calipers)?Brendo09 wrote: Am I bound to 23mm tyres, or is there a bodge I can do?
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:58 pm
I've just tried successfully to fit the 28mm to the rear, so that's good. My calipers measured the width at just under 27mm.
I'll buy a 25mm and try to fit that to the front. Previously the rub was on the top of the fork, the brake calipers cleared it sufficiently.
I won't run the risk of being widely harassed or ridiculed with a 25 / 28mm front rear tyre combo will I? I figure that the sight of me in my cheap lime green Chinese kit will distract attention from the bike itself
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby uart » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:15 pm
Ok, so it was rubbing at the top of the forks rather than the sides of the fork blades. That's actually better because it means that getting a small buckle wont screw you. Yeah give it a try with 25c, it will probably work ok.Brendo09 wrote: I'll buy a 25mm and try to fit that to the front. Previously the rub was on the top of the fork, the brake calipers cleared it sufficiently.
No it's not all that uncommon to run slightly narrower on the front. With the typical weight distribution about 60/40 (R/F) it actually makes some sense.I won't run the risk of being widely harassed or ridiculed with a 25 / 28mm front rear tyre combo will I?
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:02 pm
Now to give it a whirl and see if it can't stop me from buying something with bigger tyres anyway
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby hamishm » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:31 pm
Is this still going to be comfortable when the front tyre picks up dirt or other debris?Brendo09 wrote:Happy days. Picked up a 25mm Pirelli from the local shop, and it fits in there like a glove, with about 1mm to spare to the top of the forks.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:42 pm
I'm going to say yes.hamishm wrote:Is this still going to be comfortable when the front tyre picks up dirt or other debris?Brendo09 wrote:Happy days. Picked up a 25mm Pirelli from the local shop, and it fits in there like a glove, with about 1mm to spare to the top of the forks.
I'm also going to find out. Hopefully it's still a resounding yes.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby uart » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:14 pm
I was just about to say the same thing, 1mm is pretty tight, that's for sure.hamishm wrote:Is this still going to be comfortable when the front tyre picks up dirt or other debris?Brendo09 wrote:Happy days. Picked up a 25mm Pirelli from the local shop, and it fits in there like a glove, with about 1mm to spare to the top of the forks.
You'll be fine on dry pavement, but if you have to go through any patches of mud/crap then it might get annoying. You wont need much crap to stick to the tyre before the old "rub-rub-rub" starts.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby RonK » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:16 pm
1mm? Sorry, but experience tells me otherwise.Brendo09 wrote:I'm going to say yes.hamishm wrote:Is this still going to be comfortable when the front tyre picks up dirt or other debris?Brendo09 wrote:Happy days. Picked up a 25mm Pirelli from the local shop, and it fits in there like a glove, with about 1mm to spare to the top of the forks.
I'm also going to find out. Hopefully it's still a resounding yes.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:31 pm
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby P!N20 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:59 pm
Say what now?10speedsemiracer wrote:1mm is insufficient clearance, should be aiming for 3mm as a minimum.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:02 pm
Whilst aesthetically pleasing, my head hurts just looking at it...hoping you don't ride near wet tan bark PIN20...P!N20 wrote:Say what now?10speedsemiracer wrote:1mm is insufficient clearance, should be aiming for 3mm as a minimum.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby P!N20 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:21 pm
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:58 pm
Looks like fair weather riding then. And another tyre to buy.
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby uart » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:01 pm
Ouch! Even just a small increase in tyre pressure will make them rub when they're that close.P!N20 wrote:^ Not mine. There's no way I'd ride with unwrapped bars
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Thoglette » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:23 pm
Now I'll push for 3mm on the sides as your wheels and tyres flex as you pedal hard. But with the top clearance it's not so much the size as the quality. Is it one spot under the brake caliper? Or is it cigarette paper thin all around? (Like the photo above).Brendo09 wrote:3mm clearance minimum? Argh.
Looks like fair weather riding then. And another tyre to buy.
The real question is: If the tyre picks up a piece of "stuff" how likely is to jam?
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Re: Fork Clearance
Postby Brendo09 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:59 pm
Just poked a hex key in the gap to see, and it looks like my mm is actually between 2 and 3 mm. The tightest part is right at the top of the forks, directly under the head tube. There's clearance galore on the sides and on the brake calipers.Thoglette wrote:Now I'll push for 3mm on the sides as your wheels and tyres flex as you pedal hard. But with the top clearance it's not so much the size as the quality. Is it one spot under the brake caliper? Or is it cigarette paper thin all around? (Like the photo above).Brendo09 wrote:3mm clearance minimum? Argh.
Looks like fair weather riding then. And another tyre to buy.
The real question is: If the tyre picks up a piece of "stuff" how likely is to jam?
This isn't going to get solved on here. I'll need to take it for a burn through some crud and most likely find out that I've been exceptionally optimistic.
If that's the case... anyone want to buy a new 25mm tyre?
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