Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
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Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby find_bruce » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:33 pm
BUT check out the photo the ABC used
How long till the shock jocks start saying "cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria" ?
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Postby find_bruce » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:40 pm
I am being kind - I have no issue with him riding a bike & didn't even point out that he appears to be wearing his jacket inside out. Whether or not the charges are justified is for a court to decide - my only point was how the media are quick to attach labels to individuals in order to make a point, usually based on nothing more than sterotype.BianchiCam wrote:Be kind. At least he's giving it a go eh?
Not sure how old this photo is, via, but the helmet is getting on in years
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby human909 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:03 am
Even with the worst shock jocks around I can't imagine it going down that path.find_bruce wrote:BUT check out the photo the ABC used
How long till the shock jocks start saying "cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria" ?
I can't speak for everybody but all I see in that photo is a person. If the presence of certain type of transport (a bicycle) stands out so much that it is abnormal and it categorises the person then that is the bigger concern. But I don't think even Australia is THAT bad.
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby fat and old » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:05 am
Indeed. Labels such as "terrorist".find_bruce wrote: Whether or not the charges are justified is for a court to decide - my only point was how the media are quick to attach labels to individuals in order to make a point, usually based on nothing more than sterotype.
This has been a god send to the media, who know the plebs will lap it up; the authorities, who can now legitimise almost any actions against the people they purport to "protect"; and the population, who can channel their fears. I look forward to anti-one nation protesters being labeled terrorists....they fit the criteria.
Terrorists .
Look to the oft repeated claim hereabouts that hivis everywhere is actually counterproductive.
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby bychosis » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:35 am
Terrorist charged after counter-cyclist raids (obviously in NSW).
It is quite possible that the ABC couldn't find any other photos of the guy. It is also quite possible that he has removed his photos from the internetz as part of his 'terrorist plotting'
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Postby find_bruce » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:15 am
Do you think it is a coincidence that that news organisations choose to use those two photos when reporting on a person who is known to the police, the courts and the media?human909 wrote:Even with the worst shock jocks around I can't imagine it going down that path.
I can't speak for everybody but all I see in that photo is a person. If the presence of certain type of transport (a bicycle) stands out so much that it is abnormal and it categorises the person then that is the bigger concern. But I don't think even Australia is THAT bad.
There are other photos around of him, including his previous arrest & a nice one of him in his best suit after fronting court, but they rarely get used.
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Postby TheShadow » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:22 pm
I mostly thought it was a little amusing that he was pictured in cycling gear, which may be the key reason it was used. I think it humanises him, more than a photo in a suit would have. I think it will help him if anything, as he really looks like a nice guy to me - salt of the Earth type? - who perhaps got a little tragically side-tracked. Yes, it is possible you really don't want to disagree with him on certain issues, particularly if you don't look just like him...Is he a real threat? Who knows? Will he be locked up for what he was thinking, or what he "MIGHT" do in the future...we'll see. If only ALL terror suspects could have their media mug-shots comprised of smiling pictures while wearing cycling gear, maybe their trial-by-media would go better?find_bruce wrote:Do you think it is a coincidence that that news organisations choose to use those two photos when reporting on a person who is known to the police, the courts and the media?human909 wrote:Even with the worst shock jocks around I can't imagine it going down that path.
I can't speak for everybody but all I see in that photo is a person. If the presence of certain type of transport (a bicycle) stands out so much that it is abnormal and it categorises the person then that is the bigger concern. But I don't think even Australia is THAT bad.
There are other photos around of him, including his previous arrest & a nice one of him in his best suit after fronting court, but they rarely get used.
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby Nate » Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:29 pm
exercises, just a family man going about his day.
If they were to put a photo of him at a rally looking angry - that would have stirred some emotion i guess.
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Postby uart » Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:23 pm
Terrorism does see to be an all encompassing label, I'd like to have more details of exactly what was going on. No idea so just total guesses here, but could have been something along the lines of planning for violent protests. Is that terrorism - I'm not sure? Or perhaps just planning for contingencies in the event that a protest does turn violent?
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby mikesbytes » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:47 pm
If they showed a picture of him firing up the BBQ no one would of thought negatively of BBQ users and exactly the same should apply to bicycle users but we now how much cyclists have been out grouped. Out grouped that a cycling related photo is more negative than a violent protest photoNate wrote:looking at him in that photo - i think it really puts him in a good light.
exercises, just a family man going about his day.
If they were to put a photo of him at a rally looking angry - that would have stirred some emotion i guess.
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Re: Cyclist charged after counter-terrorism raids in Victoria
Postby Ivanerrol » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:09 pm
Last weekend a cycling "Snow Dropper" was picked up by the police in the Northern Suburbs of Melbourne.
Apprehended with multiple women undergarments in his backpack.
Allegedly had multiple outstanding warrants.
Which falls into line with.
A week or so ago I was cycling through the Northern suburbs when I noticed a police van occupants observing me. The van did a U turn from the other side of the road, pulled up beside me where the passenger officer wound down his window and took a good look at me.
I then heard a voice say - "It's not him, just an old guy on a bike"!
I wondered what it was all about at the time.
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