My first impression of Melbourne
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:47 pm
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby biker jk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:42 pm
It appears you have added a global warming adjustment to the long term average minimum temperature in Melbourne.human909 wrote:Melbourne average annual daily max: 20.4fat and old wrote:And half the temperature. We’re colder here. Colder.
Sydney average annual daily max: 22.5
Melbourne average annual daily min: 14.5
Sydney average annual daily min: 11.4
But maybe I shouldn't let out the secret.
Using 158 years of data, the average for Melbourne is 10.2 and 13.8 for Sydney (minimum temperatures).
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:59 pm
Yes Biker JK ....overall 3C isn't a big difference but what about wind chill factors? So most of the wind would come off the Southern Ocean during the winter, you'd be getting artic temps? like around the 0C on Winter Mornings? Just talking about Melbourne at this stage though, not the rural areas as I know it'd get much frostier as you get away from the coastal fringes. Does it or has it actually snowed in Melbourne or how far away would you experience it?biker jk wrote:It appears you have added a global warming adjustment to the long term average minimum temperature in Melbourne.human909 wrote:Melbourne average annual daily max: 20.4fat and old wrote:And half the temperature. We’re colder here. Colder.
Sydney average annual daily max: 22.5
Melbourne average annual daily min: 14.5
Sydney average annual daily min: 11.4
But maybe I shouldn't let out the secret.
Using 158 years of data, the average for Melbourne is 10.2 and 13.8 for Sydney (minimum temperatures).
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby human909 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:19 pm
I figured using the more recent 30 years was more relevant to more recent conditions. It isn't the 1850s.biker jk wrote: It appears you have added a global warming adjustment to the long term average minimum temperature in Melbourne.
Using 158 years of data, the average for Melbourne is 10.2 and 13.8 for Sydney (minimum temperatures).
Sydney is more windy too.brumby33 wrote:Yes Biker JK ....overall 3C isn't a big difference but what about wind chill factors?
No which Melbourne have you been to?brumby33 wrote: So most of the wind would come off the Southern Ocean during the winter, you'd be getting artic temps?
Odd that I type this both Sydney and Brisbane are colder and wetter.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:45 pm
I've been told that Melbourne doesn't really have wet spells like 2 weeks at a time like it does in Sydney and especially SE QLD.....they even had a tornado warning 2 days ago.....crikey!!
Anyway, back to bicycling & living in Melbourne and Victoria, As I'm only vaguely familiar of the layout of Melbourne, kinda looks like a big horseshoe on the map, is Melbourne easy to learn, navigate your way around? I want to live within 10kms of the CBD. Would Glen Huntley and Malvern suburbs fit within this radius?
Sorry if i'm asking too many questions.....got some big decisions to make in the next 6 Months.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:56 pm
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby DavidS » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:03 pm
Glenhuntly or Malvern are both fine. Melbourne is flatter and has wider roads so is a good place to ride. If you're buying a house you will need a lot of money, unless you're selling in Sydney I suppose. I live in Elsternwick which is close to Glenhuntly, nice part of the world. You could do a lot worse, lovely place to live.
Oh, and, yes, you do have to follow AFL. Australian Rules football is the oldest code in the world, it is Australian and, let's face it, it is the best footy in the world. Just choose the most recent Victorian team to win a flag (see avatar).
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby biker jk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:19 pm
Using the past 30 years data still shows Sydney's average minimum temperature to be 3 degrees above Melbourne.human909 wrote:I figured using the more recent 30 years was more relevant to more recent conditions. It isn't the 1850s.biker jk wrote: It appears you have added a global warming adjustment to the long term average minimum temperature in Melbourne.
Using 158 years of data, the average for Melbourne is 10.2 and 13.8 for Sydney (minimum temperatures).
I really do hope people believe that Melbourne's climate is better than Sydney's which will help maintain your more rapid growth in population, resulting in a lower quality of life.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:22 pm
You realise we used to call it aerial ping pong up here...hehehe....as long as I don't lock it in EddieDavidS wrote:Oh, and, yes, you do have to follow AFL. Australian Rules football is the oldest code in the world, it is Australian and, let's face it, it is the best footy in the world. Just choose the most recent Victorian team to win a flag (see avatar).
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Whilst I don't follow the code....I really would love to go check out a game .....lots of things I wanna do down there.
Have some friends who live in Maryborough that belong to the same Motorcycle website group as I do....they often go riding up around the Grampians etc. I enjoy all 2 wheeled touring...motor & pedal so keen to check out the Victorian Countryside.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby human909 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:27 pm
Um... Yeah that is exactly what I said straight up.biker jk wrote:Using the past 30 years data still shows Sydney's average minimum temperature to be 3 degrees above Melbourne.
I never said better. It isn't a competition. And 'better' weather is subjective. I was just putting forward the facts.biker jk wrote:I really do hope people believe that Melbourne's climate is better than Sydney's which will help maintain your more rapid growth in population, resulting in a lower quality of life.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby fat and old » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:51 am
Yeah, I have to admit every time I come back from an extended break north I’m sorta happy with Melbourne weather. As is probably obvious, I’m due another “on tour” Off to the Kimberly for me10speedsemiracer wrote:This is not what I would call a problem. ..sorry F&Ofat and old wrote:And half the temperature. We’re colder here. Colder. And less humid. It sucks
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby Tamiya » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:59 am
If you don't have a family & baggage in tow, zero advantage for a landed house IMHO... gardening can take whole weekends. Townhouse or flat/unit has its benefits if you value your time. (Sure you can pay others to do it, but Jim don't work cheap)
If you're still working, white collar mainly in CBD? Areas like Fitzroy or Brunswick has more attraction depending on whether you prefer hipster or multinational flavour. Both those are also north & slightly *uphill* of CBD... which I might find handy if commuting south on bike every morning in dress shirt & pressed pants - no sweat
Docklands, St Kilda, Port Melb... all also nice places to be centrally located for cafe culture, nice bike paths at your flat's doorstep.
If you have no ties to CBD... going further out is much cheaper. Go Frankston, Eltham, Knox or heck even head towards Geelong and you'd halve your rental. Avoid the crazy city traffic & crazier construction zone disturbances... ain't no fun cycling thru city.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby DavidS » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:55 pm
You should check out a game, make sure you go to the MCG. Maybe start with a game which won't get as big a crowd and then go to a big game, but you will need to book if it is a really big game. There's something about being at the 'G with 90K fans.brumby33 wrote:You realise we used to call it aerial ping pong up here...hehehe....as long as I don't lock it in EddieDavidS wrote:Oh, and, yes, you do have to follow AFL. Australian Rules football is the oldest code in the world, it is Australian and, let's face it, it is the best footy in the world. Just choose the most recent Victorian team to win a flag (see avatar).
DS
Whilst I don't follow the code....I really would love to go check out a game .....lots of things I wanna do down there.
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Many opinions where to live. Plenty of multinational flavour South of town, less hipsters I suppose but I prefer South of town, then again, I did grow up around here.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby biker jk » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:36 am
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby RonK » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:35 am
If a tornado warning is a reason not to choose a particular location, then you had better think again about choosing Melbourne, which has its share of extreme weather.brumby33 wrote:I've been told that Melbourne doesn't really have wet spells like 2 weeks at a time like it does in Sydney and especially SE QLD.....they even had a tornado warning 2 days ago.....crikey!!
Melbourne weather: Tornado hits Melbourne's north
Looking for a place to retire too? I'd suggest you visit Tasmania.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:35 am
I'll probably go down for another visit soon when it gets warmer and then make my decision on that.
I'll also need to contact a few prospective employers down that way too....as I'm a bus driver by profession, i'll probably remain in a similar role if i don't get too lost....have no idea of the road system down there....except for the hook turns in the city...something i'll have to get used to. Love to have a go on the trams lol.
It's not just about Melbourne either, for a person seeking a more outdoorsy lifestyle, I'm seeing Victoria being such a diverse state, from the Alpine regions (although i've never really been a snow bunny...my last efforts on learning to ski, I managed to knock down the entire class in one go), to the rural and historic Gold towns of Ballarat and Bendigo...( I've read where both these towns heavily promoting bicycling) to the Grampians where I've been told is great Motorcycling territory, Phillip Island racing....for such a small state, it's got a lot to attract and all not too far away from the Capital City....here it takes 2.5 hours just to get to Newcastle by the time you get out of Sydney.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:42 am
Hehehe Ron, i kind of remember that event from TV news.....yeah when Melbourne has a storm...it doesn't muck around eh....but once over...then it's over....jeez in Sydney, We had a storm late last week and it just won't go away...it's still wet and miserable up here untill end of the week.RonK wrote:If a tornado warning is a reason not to choose a particular location, then you had better think again about choosing Melbourne, which has its share of extreme weather.brumby33 wrote:I've been told that Melbourne doesn't really have wet spells like 2 weeks at a time like it does in Sydney and especially SE QLD.....they even had a tornado warning 2 days ago.....crikey!!
Melbourne weather: Tornado hits Melbourne's north
Looking for a place to retire too? I'd suggest you visit Tasmania.
I don't think I'd get the Mrs to move to Tassie....not enough City for her apparently
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby P!N20 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:39 pm
Better to pick the team that has won the most premierships...and isn't Carlton.DavidS wrote:Oh, and, yes, you do have to follow AFL. Australian Rules football is the oldest code in the world, it is Australian and, let's face it, it is the best footy in the world. Just choose the most recent Victorian team to win a flag (see avatar).
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby fat and old » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:23 pm
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby DavidS » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:31 pm
You would suggest Essendon on a cycling forum? We have enough problems with PEDs.P!N20 wrote:Better to pick the team that has won the most premierships...and isn't Carlton.DavidS wrote:Oh, and, yes, you do have to follow AFL. Australian Rules football is the oldest code in the world, it is Australian and, let's face it, it is the best footy in the world. Just choose the most recent Victorian team to win a flag (see avatar).
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby brumby33 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:45 pm
A willy willy is a tornado innit?fat and old wrote:Tornado? Melbourne? Bwaaaaaahahahaaaahaha! These days the stupid media wil call tornado just cos old mate let go a strong fart! We have strong storms sometimes like everyone else. Tornado Yeah, and “super cell” storms, and “First Nations” people. It’s just the media jumping on every Americanism they can.
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Re: My first impression of Melbourne
Postby Jmuzz » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:03 pm
Victoria is far nicer than NSW for motorcycle touring, you won't be disappointed.brumby33 wrote: Have some friends who live in Maryborough that belong to the same Motorcycle website group as I do....they often go riding up around the Grampians etc. I enjoy all 2 wheeled touring...motor & pedal so keen to check out the Victorian Countryside.
Food is a far better standard too.
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