How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

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How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby Trevtassie » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:54 am

Just spent $2000 on a bunch of parts, chains, cassettes, bottom brackets. Zero Shimano involved, thanks to the local prices being extortionate and, well, you know, not being able to exercise consumer sovereignty. Sunrace did very well with 7 cassettes, a bottom bracket and a set of cranks. Wippermann, chains. Ebay for an SRAM shifter, Acros and Hope bottom brackets....

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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby Tim » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:26 am

The Sunrace cassettes interest me.
I wonder if anybody has experience with Sunrace vs Shimano cassette durability?

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Postby Calvin27 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:38 am

Tim wrote:The Sunrace cassettes interest me.
I wonder if anybody has experience with Sunrace vs Shimano cassette durability?
In mtb world they are practicaly interchangable. But that's mtb where shifting is a dog once any dirt gets near it and wear is much higher also due to dirt.
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Postby march83 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:22 am

I bought some consumables before the German shops stopped exporting, but I'll be going for non Shimano components when they run out.

Sunrace cassettes
Jagwire cables
KMC chains

FWIW, Merlin and Wiggle will still send you Shimano stuff, though Wiggle stock levels seem to be getting worse and worse as time goes on, but I can understand opting for alternatives out of principal.

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Postby find_bruce » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:08 am

Another advantage of being a Luddite still on 8 speed is that compatibility isn't a problem. $himano no longer make the better quality cassettes or chains so I have preferred to use alternatives - I only stopped using $RAM when they became market leaders on screwing consumers.

Sadly I don't think it will bother $himano, at least not in Oz - their focus has always been on OEM & a major reason for buying online is that half the time the parts I want aren't available in Oz.
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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby Cardy George » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:16 am

Calvin27 wrote:
Tim wrote:The Sunrace cassettes interest me.
I wonder if anybody has experience with Sunrace vs Shimano cassette durability?
In mtb world they are practicaly interchangable. But that's mtb where shifting is a dog once any dirt gets near it and wear is much higher also due to dirt.
Tim wrote:The Sunrace cassettes interest me.
I wonder if anybody has experience with Sunrace vs Shimano cassette durability?
I'll back what Calvin said, and add the Sunrace cassette is on track to at least equal the XT cassette that was there before it. 9,000km from the XT, 5,000km so far from Sunrace and shifting is still good, both cassettes had/have at least 60% of that on dusty trails

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Bottom brackets & disc rotors

Postby find_bruce » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:31 am

I am happy with using KMC chains & sunrace cassettes, but not sure about hollowtech2 type bottom brackets or disc rotors.

Sure Hope etc are nice but I am looking to avoid price gouging.

No fancy requirements for my commuter - standard BSA & 24mm axle, I usually use deore, tiagra or whatever else is on sale. Price comparison - Tiagra RS500 from Germany ~$15, from pushy's with Australia tax $26 but not in stock!

Discs are 180mm again nothing fancy, centrelock or 6 bolt is fine, I think current is RT64, but again whatever is on sale.

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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:19 am

Any particular Sunrace cassettes? The level that is.

Looking at getting a 11-36, 11-40 or 11-42 for my gravelling bike

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Postby Calvin27 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:55 am

MichaelB wrote:Any particular Sunrace cassettes? The level that is.
I'm not really a believer in cassette/chain specs. I just go for whaterver is the right range and has an integrated cluster for the bigger gears to avoid chewing the freehub.
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Postby 2wheels_mond » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:05 am

MichaelB wrote:Any particular Sunrace cassettes? The level that is.

Looking at getting a 11-36, 11-40 or 11-42 for my gravelling bike
I've got a Sunrace CS-RX1 11-36 cassette on my gravel bike - works excellently with an R8000 medium cage rear derailleur. Cost $58 from Starbike in Germany.

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Postby ldrcycles » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:13 am

I've been using Sunrace cassettes and chains on both road and mountain bikes for a few years now with no complaints. The quality is on par with the same level of Shimano gear while also being cheaper.
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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby DavidS » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:41 pm

I've run KMC chains for years, they're great.

For cassettes I bought some Miche cassettes a while ago, going very well on both bikes. See little point buying Shimano if they're going to screw us.

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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby Duck! » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:38 pm

Calvin27 wrote:
MichaelB wrote:Any particular Sunrace cassettes? The level that is.
I'm not really a believer in cassette/chain specs..... {/quote]
They do make a difference. Higher-spec chains & sprockets have better surface treatments which better resist corrosion, are harder-wearing and therefore more durable. With the same maintenance routine, a high-spec chain & cassette will considerably outlast lower grade models.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby Calvin27 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:23 am

Duck! wrote: They do make a difference. Higher-spec chains & sprockets have better surface treatments which better resist corrosion, are harder-wearing and therefore more durable. With the same maintenance routine, a high-spec chain & cassette will considerably outlast lower grade models.
Maybe I don't ride enough, or maybe I don't do maintenance enough, maybe both?

How much of a difference do you think? I have a bush beater ebike that chews through 8 speed chains like mad, worthwhile to go for the top of range whipperman chains?
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Re: How Good is this Shimano Shipping Thing!

Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Ended up getting a Sunrace CMX8 from germany when I bought my new BB for the Slate.

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