More cycleway ideas in Government competition

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More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:45 am

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sub ... 569td.html

https://sydney.org.au/psic/entry/the-pipeline/
https://sydney.org.au/psic/minister-for ... ces-award/ (the winning entry)

There are a lot of others.

The last one certainly has scope to be extended further west towards the M7 cycleway too. It would be worthwhile doing so - especially if it provided a link that remained open 24/7 (ie, not closing at 4:30pm during non-daylight savings periods).

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby opik_bidin » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:39 pm

Did not think this could be a winner, not after McCormack was mocked for it, even by cyclists

https://sydney.org.au/psic/best-tempora ... pace-idea/

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:05 pm

opik_bidin wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:39 pm
Did not think this could be a winner, not after McCormack was mocked for it, even by cyclists

https://sydney.org.au/psic/best-tempora ... pace-idea/
I'm used to it in some overseas villages. It's a bit of a change when you've been doing freewheeling at 60-70km/h+ and then hit a small town part way down. Then you get through the speed limit zone and off you go again The 30km/h zone is actually a nice rest - the big descents are pretty insane, especially the ones with bad road surfaces.

The local surburban back streets around my area would be good with 30km/h zones. I can certainly go quicker than that but 30 is okay too.

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:22 am

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new ... 56fmt.html

This one is actually going to happen, hard to believe.

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby find_bruce » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:50 am

A cycleway down Oxford Street is great & by putting it in the middle of the road it eliminates dooring issues.

The interection with College St however looks to me like an appalling design
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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:55 am

find_bruce wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:50 am
A cycleway down Oxford Street is great & by putting it in the middle of the road it eliminates dooring issues.

The interection with College St however looks to me like an appalling design
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And they want people who don't use it to be fined. They also want other unused cycleways to be ripped up and given back to residents to park their cars (or as traffic lanes). :lol:

By the way, it's not a good idea to hot link to the images of other websites.

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby biker jk » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:07 am

find_bruce wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:50 am
A cycleway down Oxford Street is great & by putting it in the middle of the road it eliminates dooring issues.

The interection with College St however looks to me like an appalling design
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Agreed. Moreover, how do you turn left into Crown St when coming from the east?

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby am50em » Tue May 16, 2023 6:34 pm

A controversial pop-up cycleway in Sydney’s eastern suburbs will be retained for another three years because of delays to construction of a permanent bike path along Oxford Street.

The City of Sydney voted on Monday night to keep the temporary cycleway along Moore Park Road – next to Allianz Stadium – until May 2026, despite some Paddington residents and sporting bodies demanding that it be removed.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/con ... 5d8oc.html

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby warthog1 » Tue May 16, 2023 7:00 pm

g-boaf wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:55 am


By the way, it's not a good idea to hot link to the images of other websites.
I am an IT dunce. Why not?
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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Tue May 16, 2023 7:10 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 7:00 pm
g-boaf wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:55 am


By the way, it's not a good idea to hot link to the images of other websites.
I am an IT dunce. Why not?
Some sites put unexpected surprises in the replacement images. So instead of getting the image you expect, you might end up with something different, depending on how nasty the site owner wants to be.

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby warthog1 » Tue May 16, 2023 7:35 pm

g-boaf wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 7:10 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 7:00 pm
g-boaf wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:55 am


By the way, it's not a good idea to hot link to the images of other websites.
I am an IT dunce. Why not?
Some sites put unexpected surprises in the replacement images. So instead of getting the image you expect, you might end up with something different, depending on how nasty the site owner wants to be.

Thanks :)
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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby Thoglette » Tue May 16, 2023 11:55 pm

opik_bidin wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:39 pm
Did not think this could be a winner, not after McCormack was mocked for it, even by cyclists
Ah, well physics are different in Auuuustralia, maate. Particularly if you can get 2GB.

Cynic in me says that "30kph" signs might get the average speed down to maybe 50kph. Unless something's radically changed in Syd-a-ney since I was last there.
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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby find_bruce » Wed May 17, 2023 6:34 am

Thoglette wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:55 pm
Cynic in me says that "30kph" signs might get the average speed down to maybe 50kph. Unless something's radically changed in Syd-a-ney since I was last there.
Depends on where you are talking about - for the last 8 km of my commute 30kph would require a 50% increase in motor vehicle speed

[edit] To illustrate my point, at 7 am today a truck was stopped for 10 minutes which caused a 14km queue of traffic which did not clear until 3 hours later
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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:07 pm

The new cycleway/shared path up to Carlingford (running alongside the light rail line) is not bad, it goes further than I expected.

You could even probably use it for interval training if you want because it's a fairly steady and constant uphill and quite open. You probably won't go much more than 25-30km/h uphill. It isn't super steep but enough that you can push without going too fast.

Watch out if it rains however, the path becomes a river of water running downhill. :!:

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Re: More cycleway ideas in Government competition

Postby Retrobyte » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:42 pm

g-boaf wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:07 pm
The new cycleway/shared path up to Carlingford (running alongside the light rail line) is not bad, it goes further than I expected.

You could even probably use it for interval training if you want because it's a fairly steady and constant uphill and quite open. You probably won't go much more than 25-30km/h uphill. It isn't super steep but enough that you can push without going too fast.

Looking at the elevation profile I doubt anyone will beat 30kph along the 4.4km path if it becomes a Strava segment. Similar segments around that route with uphill elevation top out at 29kph - even for the smaller riders around 60kg.

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