Carrying Batteries in the Car
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Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby Aushiker » Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:05 pm
My question is in relation to suitable bags to put the batteries in whilst transporting them (will not be used for charging). Any suggestions on a reasonable bag that will take the two batteries?
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby zebee » Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:41 pm
- to make it easier to handle them and move them around so something that has a handle
- to strap them down or tie them to something
- to hide them from thieves
- to pad them for transport, especially to protect connectors
- to protect them from water
- because I'm a bag for everything sorta guy
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby Aushiker » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:15 pm
Pretty much the above thanks Zeebee. My current thinking is a sports bag or similar with foam to drop them into to protect them in transport.
To make the bike easier to load/unload and to reduce the chance of theft taking the batteries out is preferred.
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby zebee » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:22 pm
Google says they are 416 x 84 x 65mm
I'd think you would want to look for a bag that fits pretty closely around them or around any cradle you make. I suspect most available duffle bags would be too big, maybe hunt through two dollar shops for cheap backpacks.
A tool bag?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/134740428586
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/364571374458
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/384860036981
(I searched for canvas tool bag)
tent bag?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/404683032737
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/364423056178?
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby bychosis » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:04 pm
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Postby Aushiker » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:19 pm
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby find_bruce » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:27 pm
You've already made the choice to buy a high quality bike & bosch batteries will be well manufactured with inherent protection, its just that overheating is the 2nd most common cause of lithium batteries, albeit well behind charging faults.
Traveling in an air conditioned car is fine - leaving them inside a parked car in a WA summer is not something I would recommend.
For that reason I would also avoid styrofoam, but insulated in a padded fire retardant foam is probably a good choice
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby Aushiker » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:44 pm
find_bruce wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:27 pmTraveling in an air conditioned car is fine - leaving them inside a parked car in a WA summer is not something I would recommend.
For that reason I would also avoid styrofoam, but insulated in a padded fire retardant foam is probably a good choice
Whilst it is unlikely I would leave the batteries in the car for any period, I tend to drive and ride, but there is still that possibility. Maybe a fire protection battery bag is the better option, but to be honest, from what I have seen of battery fire protection bags so far (online), they are unlikely to help much if an actual fire happens. I guess they may reduce the chance of it happening.
For example this is the highest rated one at Amazon [not suitable for me but].
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Postby Aushiker » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:11 pm
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby bychosis » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:14 am
Lithium battery fires are normally related to charging fail or physical rupture, not simply storage in a hot car. Sure, might lose a little capacity of regularly stored in a hot car but you’re unlikely to cause a fire by keeping a battery in the boot. You could put them in an insulated bag to help keep the temp down in a hot car to keep them in good condition though.
Putting them in a fire proof bag is likely to do nothing anyway due to the extremes of a thermal runaway event.
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby bychosis » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:17 am
Don’t forget ‘highly rated on Amazon’ is easily manipulated and the product may not actually be that good. The way they promote items is pretty bad.Aushiker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:44 pmFor example this is the highest rated one at Amazon [not suitable for me but].
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby find_bruce » Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:47 am
The Bosch battery guide at p 28 states that "Bosch batteries must not be stored below –10 °C or above 60 °C."
I figured that not much of WA sees temps below –10 °C, but when it's over 30°C outside, temps in a parked car can exceed 60 °C, hence why I wouldn't leave them there or store them with flammable materials.
The insulation is neoprene which is reasonably non-flammable, which makes it a good compromise for costAushiker wrote: I do like the look of this bag but there is no claim as to fire proofness and I am sure Bruce will tell me I cannot have two batteries in the one bag
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby zebee » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
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Re: Carrying Batteries in the Car
Postby Aushiker » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:14 pm
Haha ... I have seen them suggested before. Apparently you need to drill holes in them to allow for pressure release. I think that is a bit extreme butzebee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pmAh well if you are looking for something that can handle a bit of fire maybe something metal?
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