As well as when they are undertaking repair works on the arena. Have had to walk several times when they have blocked the "PSP" on Wellington St.dmwill wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:24 pmThey can't be too concerned, you're forced to ride/get off and walk through crowds of people when events are on there!....and has not been reopened due to safety concerns arising from the increasing bus, bicycle and pedestrian activity, especially within and adjacent to the eastern forecourt.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:30 am
Nothing on the WestCycle page so don't hold your breath....
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby rolandp » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:47 pm
That's because WestCycle is too busy plugging the Dams Rides. If the same effort was put into transport cycling, WestCycle would have demanded to be on the "working group" to resolve the Arena closed path.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby wexford » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:52 pm
It seems they are indeed on the working group, if this tortured sentence is anything to go by. I'm sure their involvement will produce about as much as you'd expect.
https://westcycle.org.au/rac-arena-path ... ember-2019
18 DECEMBER 2019
Earlier this year, a working group comprising of the Department of Transport, VenuesWest and ASM Global who operate RAC Arena, the City of Perth and WestCycle was formed to explore the best way to improve access for bicycle riders around RAC Arena.
For those who aren’t aware, the northern accessway that has been used by many bicycle riders is not part of the Principal Shared Path (PSP) network. This path was closed as a result of glazing works that needed to be conducted on the building in 2017 and has not been reopened due to safety concerns arising from the increasing bus, bicycle and pedestrian activity, especially within and adjacent to the eastern forecourt.
Over the last few months, the working group has discussed several options to improve the south-western route and potentially reopen the northern accessway during non-event times. Although the northern accessway is preferred by many bicycle riders, this path is located on RAC Arena land and the south-western route will continue to be the main route around the Arena.
Some of the interventions explored include:
Redesigning the Market Street crossing to maintain PSP priority and improve safety;
Surface treatments at the south-western corner to reduce conflict as bicycle riders enter the pedestrian-priority shared space along Wellington Street;
Rearranging street furniture on the eastern forecourt to help lead bicycle riders towards the mid-block kerb ramp on Milligan Street and to slow bicycle riders as they enter the pedestrian-priority area; and
Gates at both ends to open/close the northern accessway during event times and as required (including signage to give advanced notice of upcoming closures).
Where to now?
The Department of Transport, VenuesWest, ASM Global and the City of Perth are currently exploring the viability of these various options. Once this process is complete, a course of action can be decided upon and budgeted for. We will provide another update and share the schedule of works once these details have been finalised.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby craigg » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:17 am
Here is the view from behind Perth Arena this morning:
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:20 am
Goodness! I know where today's ride will go
Nothing on WestCycle's blog. Perhaps it's a trial to show that "riders don't use it so we'll close it again"? Paint me cynical.
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Postby rolandp » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:50 pm
Both, some forum members have been contacting MP, local government, WestCycle, etc. WestCycle may have been doing the same, sadly they don't keep us informed. There are still outstanding items, in particular those white bollards to the north/east, there is no good connection to Milligan St (which is still to improve according to CoP bike plan) or the cycle path on Barrack St (which suddenly stop at William St) . If there is a consultative processes occuring perhaps it is time to let us know what is occuring.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:11 pm
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
A big shout out to everyone who’s been keeping the pressure up over the years .
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby mount_street » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:35 pm
Wouldn't closing the accessway during events increase conflicts on the Wellington St path?!RAC Arena Path Update
The accessway on the northern side of RAC Arena has reopened whilst there are no events at RAC Arena. Future options to improve safety around the arena during event-times are being explored and will include managed closures of the accessway during event times. We will provide further updates and share the schedule of works once these details have been finalised.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby archetuthus » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:52 pm
THIS ^^^ I dont understand why they would close the path when it diverts cyclists away from all the people out the front on wellington street. where at every event they also seem to take over half the path with signs to warn motorists there is an event and no left turn. Effectively making that path even more clogged and worse for all users.mount_street wrote: Wouldn't closing the accessway during events increase conflicts on the Wellington St path?!
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:17 am
Which is an essential step in (legally) determining it as a private space.
This does nothing to resolve the apparent problem, which could be resolved by funnelling cyclists (and pedestrians) using the right of way onto Milligan st at the northern end.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:43 pm
No idea what, yet
From the offical press release
"Additionally, we are also funding highly anticipated connections throughout the CBD, including connectivity around RAC Arena, which has been a major problem spot for cyclists."
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby dmwill » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:22 pm
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby Thoglette » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:02 pm
I'd like to think it was for buying the land back, and perhaps re-routing the eastern end the other side of the carpark exit.
But the cynic in me says you may be right.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby craigg » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:41 pm
So even though closing the northern path makes the southern path more dangerous they don't give a !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! as it's not their land and therefore not their problem.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby rolandp » Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:28 pm
Based on the above, the land is not Perth Arena, but PSP.Continue Principal Shared Path to pass between railway and stadium to link with Milligan Street extension and land bridge.
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Re: Path closed behind Perth Arena
Postby craigg » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:15 pm
One possible solution to mitigate that risk would be to extend the PSP directly to Milligan St which would bypass the forecourt entirely. However an issue with that is the land required to extend the PSP is not wide enough. Any extension to Milligan St has half the width inside Perth Arena and the other half part of the adjacent northern lot.
The Landgate image below shows that the PSP follows the northern boundary and terminates where the lot becomes too narrow for the PSP to continue to Milligan St without encroaching on the neighboring lot to the north.
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