Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

[fat and old]

Actually, on the subject of Sutton's alleged need for test....is it true it can give me the average bloke some "help"?

[find_bruce]

Actually, on the subject of Sutton's alleged need for test....is it true it can give me the average bloke some "help"?

If testosterone enhanced that particular performance like the well known blue pills it would have been fairly obvious in Pharmstong, Landis, et al.

Low testosterone can be a cause of that symptom, but its not the only one. If "your friend" in fact has low testosterone, then yes it may help. Low testosterone has a range of other symptoms.

Testosterone levels drop with age, but its a slow process & like many things, variable at an individual level - something like 20% of men aged 60+, rising to 30% of men aged 70+ have low testosterone.

Its a simple test, next time your friend has a blood test ask the doctor to include testosterone level.

[fat and old]

Oh shucks...see what happens when you don't put a at the end?

Two sons!!! I have two strapping sons that look just like me!!!

[Ross]

Doping researcher who defended Lance Armstrong receives doping ban

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/late ... ban-452358

A doping researcher who testified on behalf of Lance Armstrong during the US Department of Justice case has been banned from cycling for doping.

John Gleaves, an assistant professor at California State University, has accepted a four-year suspension after testing positive at the Masters Track National Championships last August.

The 36-year-old tested positive for oxandrolone metabolites, a hormone and metabolic modulator, and has had any results since the date of the test disqualified and been forced to forfeit any medals, points and prizes he collected.

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Doping researcher who defended Lance Armstrong receives doping ban

He also co-authored a book on ethics in sport, and sat as an expert on various fora on the subject.

[MichaelB]

So that makes him a qualified idiot

[g-boaf]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/tw ... 55xvp.html

Doping scandal again in the TdF.

[MichaelB]

The response from Arkea team is interesting. Blaming personal assistants not connected with the team.

Hmmmmm

Reckon that Dayer & Nairo ask for a refund from their supplier, as it didn't work. Performed poorly and got busted**



** = allegedly ....

[AUbicycles]

I found the unusual aspect is the team said that tge targets were not employees of the team.... so how come they were inside the bubble.

I was at some of the team hotels including one where Arkea was and theteam bubbles and separation was fairly strictly followed... so it is weird that there are the extra people were closely connected but should not have been in thr rider bubbles.

As always, we have to wait and see... and hope.

[AUbicycles]

Nothing to hide... but Team Sky and British Cycling doctor Richard Freeman destroyed his laptop with a screwdriver.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/freema ... l-resumes/

[Sharkey]

This was after the previous laptop that had the Jiffy Bag data was stolen.

[MichaelB]

Nothing to hide... but Team Sky and British Cycling doctor Richard Freeman destroyed his laptop with a screwdriver.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/freema ... l-resumes/

Absolutely nothing in his testimony screams "BS". Nada. Zip.

I wonder if anyone had to sustain an outbusrt of "What ? You expect me to believe that ? "

[biker jk]

This was after the previous laptop that had the Jiffy Bag data was stolen.

Although he claimed the rider data was not backed up it somehow all appeared again on the "new" laptop. I'm guessing it's the same laptop he took to with a screwdriver as it was never lost.

[ldrcycles]

Can't really add anything to the caption on this.


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3387798781311383

[RonK]

Can't really add anything to the caption on this.


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3387798781311383

Nothing else that can be said - when the Ventolin is dispensed by the race doctor it must be legitimate.

[AUbicycles]

Italian team Vini Zubu rider Matteo Spreafico out of Giro after positive tests on Stage 12 and 13 for SARM ostarine.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/matteo ... -positive/

[AUbicycles]

Interesting story (in German so you can translate) about how photos of Dumoulin and Roglic appear in the photo database for the Austrian process against blood doping (operation Anderlass) sport doctor Mark Schmidt - mostly with skiers.

Reports are that Dumoulin and Roglic were neither suspects or witnesses but there is also no explanation why they were included.

Story: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/rogli ... -1.5156202

[AUbicycles]

The Freeman case has now seen a conclusion, it was a medical enquiry judging whether Team Sky coach Dr Freeman lied and whether his actions of ordering Testosterone were acceptable, the verdict was that this was the case but the fine / penalty is still to be handed down.

In this Freeman claimed the testosterone were for Australian ex pro and British cycling coach Shane Sutton for erectile disfunction... a claim that was ruled to be unplausible because of Freemans continued lies and it was far fetched.

This trial was not to determine for which Team Sky rider the testosterone was for... although the team formally deny.. but public calls for action against team owner Brailsford.

This just popped up in. Uk tabloid mailonsunday.

There is no source... but reporter Nick Harris @sportingintel has been tweeting.

Team Sky's HEAD COACH Shane Sutton confided to boss Dave Brailsford in 2012 his (unsubstantiated) concerns Chris Froome was doping ... as Sutton himself feared allegations of his own doping past were about to surface.

Context is everything here: in 2012 Dave Brailsford asked every Team Sky employee to admit or deny past doping. Admit it and you're out. Deny and you stay. Sutton denied. His day-to-day involvement ended in early 2013. He stayed on the payroll until 2017.

[MichaelB]

But Brailsford says it’s nothing to do with them.

And I believe him.


NOT

[AUbicycles]

Freeman no longer allowed to practice (as a doctor).

This doping still seriously annoys me as there is enough contradiction and concealment that it is not really settled / closed.

So who was the testosterone for and what action will be taken (to nullify results as needed?)

[MichaelB]

Freeman no longer allowed to practice (as a doctor).

This doping still seriously annoys me as there is enough contradiction and concealment that it is not really settled / closed.

So who was the testosterone for and what action will be taken (to nullify results as needed?)

Inner Ring had a great post about why there is still actually a doping offence in Sky ....

https://inrng.com/2021/03/testogel-poss ... wada-code/

[fat and old]

So what's the feels on Katie Compton? Doped or victim of contaminated beef?

[find_bruce]

So what's the feels on Katie Compton? Doped or victim of contaminated beef?

Yes - in that those appear to be the 2 alternatives. Testing shows the presence of the drugs, not how they got there. The only person who knows is the athlete & the issue there is the thousands of lying cheating scumbags who went before.

Part of the issue is the quality of testing. In the early days if they detected the drug, it was in sufficient quantity that you either took it recently or took a lot. They have significantly improved detection methods over the past 10-15 years such that contamination is now often a plausible explanation.

Australia's criminal justice system is built on a foundation that it's better that 10 guilty people go free than 1 innocent person is gaoled.

It seems to me that the unstated foundation for the current WADA system is that its better that an innocent athlete be banned than a doper be allowed to compete.

Whether that is the correct approach is one on which people have different views

[RonK]

So what's the feels on Katie Compton? Doped or victim of contaminated beef?

We've seen the same situation with Contador in 2010 and Michael Rogers in 2013 both returned positives for minute traces of peds which they claimed were due to contaminated beef.
One was banned the other absolved.
Ten years later and WADA still haven't reached a consistent position on this.

[find_bruce]

Strange days indeed- when the headlines read that yet another rider has tested positive but it’s not drugs